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    Yes Roaches have a more favorable meat to shell ratio over feeder crickets who jump to much. Each feeder insect has it's ups and downs. For firebellies in a mostly aquatic environment that I described with a "feeder bowl" shaped rock and where the toads stay in the water to eat it is perfect. I put the dubia baby-small medium roaches there and sometimes they sit for a minute or two then they run around. The firebellies seem to prefer feeding from the safety of the water and the rock caves they dwell in. They all crowd around and pick them off.

    If you have a large land portion with your firebellies it may be different and I might choose the turkistan Roaches that would not hide in the substrate and run around more.

    I recommended the Dubia Blaptica for Annaliese because her setup is mostly aquatic with a rocky substrate and because when I tried to feed lateralis to my firebellies they regurgitated them. Calcium dust sticking to any insect is an issue with water and Dubia and lateralis are no exception. The answer to this is to give a gutload 24-48 hours in advance of feeding them off.

    I will recommend any of many varieties of roach as a supplement in conjuction with crickets because of favorable nutrition rates. I just happen to have huge seemingly never ending supply of Dubia.
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    If your having problems getting dust to stick to the roaches a light mist will fix that problem. However you will some times have frogs that just dont like the taste of the dust which will leave you with only gut loading. Now my roaches are always gut loaded, that just comes with good care. And i am sure anyone who cultures them knows that. You dont need to go out and buy a gut load supplemt from a store. It is just a waste of money. If your looking for calcium, oranges and romain lettuce combined have far more calcium then what can be found in milk. Vitamin D can be found in a varity of breakfast cereals, such as cheerio's. I agree with everything Ash stated. But what I am more trying to get at is anything nutrition your frog will need as far as gut loading goes you can probably find already in your house hold. If you are looking for a specific vitamin or nutrient PM me and i will give you a list of foods your crickets and roaches would willingly except.

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    In my dealing with large commercial insect dealers they usually push the messy powders and dust. I prefer to push feeding your insects a highly nutritious food so that they are always Gutloaded as the above poster notes. The pet-stores that push messy powders and such are not selling you healthy bugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    In my dealing with large commercial insect dealers they usually push the messy powders and dust. I prefer to push feeding your insects a highly nutritious food so that they are always Gutloaded as the above poster notes. The pet-stores that push messy powders and such are not selling you healthy bugs.
    I understand that we have probably given the poster all the help they will ever need but i still wanted to reply to this comment. Ash you are totally right. I too sell to and network with many of the top insect breeders and they as well as myself will agree to this post. When i first started out i spoke to an employee of petco i asked what kind of veggies could i feed my insects that would contain High calcium. And they responded with "there are no veggies that contain calcium." They continued to push a some what expensive calcium dust on me in which i ended up buying. Well either this person had no clue as to what they where talking about or they lied to me and just wanting to sell me the product. I am not saying that some products out there are not beneficial to your frogs and toads because they are. But you can find greater nutrition sources in veggies. Right now i am feeding my 3 roaches species (in which i have mass quantities of) Pumpkin. Pumpkin is one of the top 10 super foods and is extremely cheap at this time of year. Blend it with Kale, Romain lettuce, cheerio's, carrots and quinoa and will be giving you frogs an unrivaled gut-loaded insect. And per quantity it is 100 times less then most dust products out there. Not to mention your insects will fare much better during breeding with this sort of diet.

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