New to fire bellies

[Baloo]

I was thinking about setting up an exo terra tank for some fire belly toads. The tank would be a 24"L x 12"H x 18"D and was how many could 'comfortably and happily' housed in that size? My local pet store setup a beautiful tank with them a while ago in an exo terra that had a pond on it and branches. Although now that I think of it they shouldn't have put a little fish in the water and I heard its best not to house them with what I think were fire newts. Did a little google digging that led back here to a post that said they can't be housed with any other type of amphibian right? TY

[maxQ]

There are some great ideas for set up in our Viv Section. your right, they shouldn't be housed with other types of amphibians due to a toxin that they excrete. But I have seen people have newts in with them in aquatic set ups. I have a 20 L aquatic with 5 FBT's and they seem pretty happy. I do have two guppies in my tank with them that hitched rides with my plants and they have grown and they live great together. I was always told that most FBT's will not eat anything out of the water, but I cant confirm that.

[Mentat]

Think 6-8 FBTs in ET Small Low would be fine with lot's of space to explore. Myself don't think mixing frogs with anything other than themselves is a good idea; but there are rare instances of set-ups that do so like Gary stated. If interested in building a wet/dry set-up, do visit the article section and look at those describing how to build a false bottom or one of Bill's excellent thread's. Also, here is a nice article on FBTs care: Frog Forum - Fire-Bellied Toad Care and Breeding - Bombina orientalis and relatives. Good luck !

[Ash]

For the most part it is best to keep kind with kind, however there are some species (arboreal that I am thinking of) that are immune to fire bellies toxin although your tank is probably too small too house them comfortably. Pertaining to fish in the water. I also had some baby guppies hatch probably from plants in the 6 inches or so of water I have with my firebellies-I have seen at least two of my toads fish crickets and guppies from the water. A woman at the pet store told me she uses guppies and white clouds as feeders and also some of her toads will fish them from water. =)

[Baloo]

Thanks guys. I read to that green tree frogs are immune to their toxins, but I don't think I'll chance it.

[rainvenezia]

I have always housed tree frogs and FB together and have never had a problem. However I have several levels in my tank and they tend to stay separated even when feeding. It is not recommended though, I may just be lucky