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    Default Re: Pakku not eating regularly, burried for a long time and looking thinner?! HELP!

    These days when read "Spring Water"...the warning chimes come on. Can you please check with the water source and find out what do they do to the spring water during processing? Do they filter it or add chlorine (chloramines) or other chemicals? Your frog could be suffering from Toxic Out Syndrome (TOS) if the spring water is treated or over filtered in any way that makes it unsafe for frogs .
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    Default Re: Pakku not eating regularly, burried for a long time and looking thinner?! HELP!

    I checked the jugs and it says 100% natural spring water. It does say there is a website that I can check the "water quality report." I checked the website and it says that it's microfiltered and sanitized with nothing more than UV light.

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    Default Re: Pakku not eating regularly, burried for a long time and looking thinner?! HELP!

    being through what i have been through for the last year id say that I don't trust spring water. period. and use and recommend for everybody to get water conditioner and use if for your tap water. this way you will know for sure it is safe.
    your conditions are spot on, good job! however a few things pops out in mind here other then possibly spring water. how many hours of daylight a frog gets a day? do you lower temps for the night and feed him after lights are off and temps drop? how deep is a substrate and how big is a frog?
    you will need to dig him out to take a pic to show us, we need to evaluate what shape the frog is in and what to do further. as well i would like to see pic of the enclosure too. and since you dig him out to do so, place him in warm bath for 20 min, treated tap water with a few drops of natural honey.

    i didn't get a clear picture about feeding, please clarify - you got him a month ago, he was eating crickets no problem but then you tried top tong feed, he didn't like it and went under the ground, now he is not eating at all including crickets that he had no problems eating before. did i get it right?
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    Default Re: Pakku not eating regularly, burried for a long time and looking thinner?! HELP!

    Try using conditioned tap water-- a bottle of Prime conditioner doesn't cost much and lasts for MONTHS, especially with only one animal. I lost a fish after only a month of living with untreated spring water (well situation) and believe it contributed in-part to some serious health issues with my pac too. She's doing great now, but it was pretty bad initially.

    Also, how are you tong-feeding? When I first started my girl with tongs, I had to rub a worm between her lips for a minute before she'd get annoyed and take it. Sometimes they get scared without realizing it's food. I'd recommend trying treated tap water and also rubbing food against your frog's lips till he/she gets annoyed and bites a time or two (worms are less likely to scratch their skin when you rub their face IMO). They are often more eager to try tong-feeding once they realize there is food involved and not just metal "INSTRUMENTS OF DEATH" (as my python and White's tree frog like to call them).

    But as others have said, plz post pics of your frog unburied. If he/she is toxing out, there are some quick/simple treatments you'd want to try. Like Lija said, soaking in luke-warm treated water with a couple drops of natural honey is great. It's like a natural laxative and encourages them to pee and pass any toxins that have built up.
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