my whites tree frog keeps hiding underwater fully submerged

[maxhogger]

help my whites tree frog keeps going under water completely and i keep rescuing her but she also seems more bloated than usual help. she might drown and i dont know what to do

[Mentat]

Hello and welcome to FF! I've deleted the similar double post at another thread. From reading your post, appears you have a deep water substrate in your White's enclosure; right? To help us narrow down what is causing problem, please answer the below posted questions. Also, here is a link to the forums excellent White's care article: Frog Forum - White's Tree Frog Care - Litoria caerulea. Good luck !

“Trouble in the Frog Enclosure”

The following information will be very helpful if provided when requesting assistance with either your frog or enclosure. To help with your questions, please utilize the below list and post the information in the proper forum area to get advice from FF members that keep the same frog. This will allow for little confusion and a faster more informed response.


1. Size of enclosure
2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences
3. Humidity
4. Temperature
5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish
6. Materials used for substrate
7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials.
- How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv.
8. Main food source
9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often)
10. Lighting
11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
12. When is the last time he/she ate
13. Have you found poop lately
14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)
15. How old is the frog
16. How long have you owned him/her
17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred
18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats
19. How often the frog is handled
20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)


by Lynn(Flybyferns) and GrifTheGreat.

[maxhogger]

1exo terra medium tank
2 2 whites tree frogs
3 33%
4 25-20c
5 half the tank is full off water and missted every day
6 plantation soil grass moss devels ivey and lavinder
7exo terra drift wood and corkbark
8 crikets
9 both feed in to crickets
10 exo terra uv bulb and 60 wt bulb
11 lights
12 last night
13yes
14
152-4 years old
16 6 months
17 cb
18 wax worms
19 every day
20 low
21 every 2 weeks water and substrate 1 per month

[Mentat]

I'm sorry; but with the sparse information provided can't make a full picture of what's going on. What ExoTerra Medium (low, medium, tall)? How tall is it? White's require 29C day and no lower than 24C night temps. You need to raise your enclosure temperature since extended low temp periods can lead to permanent kidney and lymph hearts damage.

Need information on water: what's it's origin: how do you treat it: is there a filter? Knowing pH, ammonia, nitrites, and nitrate levels would help. If water is not right, your frog could slowly be poisoned and suffer from Toxic Shock Syndrome (TOS), leading to neurological and other physiological disorders.

What do you gut load crickets with? You need to dust with CA/D3 and vitamin supplements no matter what you feed the crickets; can use this schedule according to frog size: http://www.frogforum.net/food-feeder...schedules.html.

Photo's of frog and enclosure will help lots. Although White's tolerate handling better than most frogs; daily handling could be stressing it. Please provided requested information and in the meantime correct the temperature and feeding issues discussed. Thank you !

[flybyferns]

Hello,
Welcome the Frog Forum.
If this were my frog, I would remove all of the water and give the frog a simple soaking dish that can be cleaned everyday and re-filled with
de-chlorinated water
Lynn