to be honest guys/girls.... the constant freakout over some of the smallest things are really getting to me. i am new to the forum but not to the pacman world. sure i baby my frogs too, but sometimes they just pass away. example: i recently picked up a suriname, fantasy, and an ornata. i keep all three in different kritter keepers in the same condition, came home sunday night and the ornata was dead. there really wasnt anything wrong or anything i could of done. so sometimes the frog doesnt want to eat, and sometimes it doesnt want to poop. leave them be, i am sure you wouldnt like food shoved in your face constantly, or everytime you took a bit longer to poop they throw you in a bath.....it's ok. you and your frog will survive.![]()