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    Oh my goodness......
    Started to read answers and thinking where to start.... Yeah... Another pet store..... I better not to go there.... Makes me plain mad....urg

    So so happy you found the forum and looking for answers! And no, your questions are not stupid, they are just right, I can tell you care very much for your frog, welcome to the forums!

    First of all I have a feeling your Olaf is in fact Olafa lol anyhow check nuptial pads, but first you gotta do a lot of things here, pretty much change absolutely everything except the frog of course lol

    Carlos covered it all, except locally nobody sells Dubia or any other roaches lol, it is Canada
    tank is the least of problems here! But if you could measure it we could tell you more, based on pics it is all right.
    After diet like that I would not feed mice at all for a while so her body would process all she had eaten. And I can totally can relate, I don't like heat mats at all! Infrared lamp plugged in thermostat is a way to go.
    You can get hydrotherm (ebay would be your best bet), in stores they are 2x more, plug in infrared lamp and fogger and live worry free about temps and humidity.

    Oh and you need to get a good gauges, digital are the most accurate.
    Save one animal and it doesn't change the world, but it surely changes the world for that one animal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lija View Post
    Oh my goodness......
    Started to read answers and thinking where to start.... Yeah... Another pet store..... I better not to go there.... Makes me plain mad....urg

    So so happy you found the forum and looking for answers! And no, your questions are not stupid, they are just right, I can tell you care very much for your frog, welcome to the forums!

    First of all I have a feeling your Olaf is in fact Olafa lol anyhow check nuptial pads, but first you gotta do a lot of things here, pretty much change absolutely everything except the frog of course lol

    Carlos covered it all, except locally nobody sells Dubia or any other roaches lol, it is Canada
    tank is the least of problems here! But if you could measure it we could tell you more, based on pics it is all right.
    After diet like that I would not feed mice at all for a while so her body would process all she had eaten. And I can totally can relate, I don't like heat mats at all! Infrared lamp plugged in thermostat is a way to go.
    You can get hydrotherm (ebay would be your best bet), in stores they are 2x more, plug in infrared lamp and fogger and live worry free about temps and humidity.

    Oh and you need to get a good gauges, digital are the most accurate.


    Thanks for the quick responses, everyone!
    Olafa.. haha oh no! Not a male? Is it because of the frog's size or colour that you say that?
    I tried to measure him just now, and without getting too close, I'm going to say 4.5" from head to tail.
    Mind you, that's in his "I'm going to be a gelatinous blob now" mode.
    I'm going to try and get the moss out and put the proper substrate in today. Sooo.. Frog scoop and move him to a smaller container while I work? Is that how you clean your terrariums? Thanks for the tip on using the proper substrate Mentat!

    Should I be leaving the heat lamp on 24/7 then? It's not that bright but it does get hot and I panicked last night when I was going to bed and turned it off. I have an irrational fear of fires, I think. :| Of course the temp dropped too much by this morning.. Ergg I feel like an idiot,the least I could do is keep his temperature stable..

    Difference between a nightcrawler and a Canadian nightcrawler? IS this like where people in the states say Canadian bacon and for us it's just normal 'ol bacon? haha

    Going to go look at some older threads now and get some more information.



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    Her head shape/size says it is a female, add to that size of 4,5" you're saying she is, but it is not very reliable method, thus I said I suspect the only way to tell is to check for nuptial pads if hear a call.

    you really need to get a temp controller or at least get a lamp with a dimmer, to keep a heat lamp full on constantly is no good, big temp swings are no good either..

    Yes we place a frog in a separate container, I always combine it with warm bath, so while they are soaking I'm cleaning.

    Yes is it same old bacon lol

    one thing you should always remember - to never use UVB for albino! Ever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lija View Post
    Her head shape/size says it is a female, add to that size of 4,5" you're saying she is, but it is not very reliable method, thus I said I suspect the only way to tell is to check for nuptial pads if hear a call.

    you really need to get a temp controller or at least get a lamp with a dimmer, to keep a heat lamp full on constantly is no good, big temp swings are no good either..

    Yes we place a frog in a separate container, I always combine it with warm bath, so while they are soaking I'm cleaning.

    Yes is it same old bacon lol

    one thing you should always remember - to never use UVB for albino! Ever!
    *hangs head in shame and turns off UVB light*
    Okay, sticking with the red light only.

    How do I get a dimmer for the red one? Does that mean I have to purchase a whole new lamp ? (Starting to get a bit mad at self for making unnecessary purchases that aren't cheap!)

    Thanks for the tip on cleaning. I take it soaking is good for them from what I've read.

    Another question I just thought of...Since they are nocturnal eaters, do people always feed them at night? I get home from work around 10pm, should I be scheduling the feedings then? Or does it matter?

    ETA: Do you all use frog scoops or do you handle the frog with gloves or bare hands when moving it? I'd prefer to not handle him but I would want to use the least intrusive way of transporting him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkerBait View Post
    *hangs head in shame and turns off UVB light*
    Okay, sticking with the red light only.

    How do I get a dimmer for the red one? Does that mean I have to purchase a whole new lamp ? (Starting to get a bit mad at self for making unnecessary purchases that aren't cheap!)

    Thanks for the tip on cleaning. I take it soaking is good for them from what I've read.

    Another question I just thought of...Since they are nocturnal eaters, do people always feed them at night? I get home from work around 10pm, should I be scheduling the feedings then? Or does it matter?

    ETA: Do you all use frog scoops or do you handle the frog with gloves or bare hands when moving it? I'd prefer to not handle him but I would want to use the least intrusive way of transporting him.
    Here is an example of a dimmer for you light. Lutron TT-300H Credenza 120 Volt 300 Watt Single Pole Lamp Dimmer You could also get a 25 watt incandescent red bulb.
    Soaking seems to lead to defecation which is good for everyone... : )
    Yes, feed at night.
    I wash my hand thoroughly and then rinse and then wet them with dechlorinated tap water before handling and keep handling as brief and limited as possible.

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    I clean my hands with alcoholgel, then rehydrate them with a dechlorinated water rinse. I used gloves in the past, but I've switched to bare handed. Theres only one vital tip I've learned, don't keep a finger infront of his mouth. I scoop them up from the back with a flat hand and then place my thumb on the hard spot on the back, just below the back. making sure both jumping feet are unable to kick off, by letting them pass through my fingers.
    Kind of like holding a hamburger upside down.

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    Lol that is a good one !!! To scoop from behind lol

    yes soaking is good, it helps them with shed, water exchange and poop too. And you will see. Very pretty shiny frog after that ready for pictures, it is win win!
    Save one animal and it doesn't change the world, but it surely changes the world for that one animal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotic View Post
    I clean my hands with alcoholgel, then rehydrate them with a dechlorinated water rinse. I used gloves in the past, but I've switched to bare handed. Theres only one vital tip I've learned, don't keep a finger infront of his mouth. I scoop them up from the back with a flat hand and then place my thumb on the hard spot on the back, just below the back. making sure both jumping feet are unable to kick off, by letting them pass through my fingers.
    Kind of like holding a hamburger upside down.
    Haha the girl at the pet store scooped him up just like that.. So she knew how to handle him at least. I was like :O watching her do it.

    I got the substrate changed. It wasn't easy. I frog scooped him into a smaller plastic container, covered it with the grate (from the terrarium) and he started kicking and trying to jump!I sung to him and he seemed to calm down a bit. I'm not sure he likes the non-moss that he was used to.. But I know this is safer. Trying to get him back from the container to the tank was a five minute ordeal with me going "Oh geez how are we going to do this?" Eventually I placed the container inside the tank and scooped him out gently..Freaking out the whole time! Leaping 4" frogs are kinda scary for me apparently!

    Off to the fishing store to get some worms now. Hopefully he will eat some later!

    He just got all cozy into the substrate, that's probably a good sign.

    Here's some more photos!

    Also, I covered about half of the top with saran wrap, ending about 1" away from the heat lamp to help with humidity.


    Closer to 4" I think?






    heat lamp now moved to the right and saran wrap over the left part..How does this look?

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