Sick Whites Dumpy Tree Frog, any hope?

[BlueKiwiOca]

You can also try pulling the back legs off the crickets to make them easier to catch.

[smashley]

gave him the electrolyte bath, then put him in water and offered crickets, we pulled the legs off of some of the crickets earlier. He definitely has plenty of energy, hunting the crickets very aggressively, but he just isn't opening his mouth... he ends up practically head butting them or landing on them, its hard to watch. Tried feeding him with tweezers too, but he didn't seem to care for that. Going to leave a few in his enclosure with him all night, hopefully he will get something to eat...

[smashley]

Was hunting aggressively last night when we went to bed, but this morning all the crickets are still alive He seems to really want them, he jumps for the crickets but he just isn't opening his mouth, his aim seems good, he ends up landing with his head or front feet right on the crickets. I'm really worried about him using so much energy and not getting any food.

[smashley]

My boyfriend is feeling really sorry for Frog and we are thinking about Euthanasia... I saw the post about the humane ways to do it. Do you all think it's too soon? We are just starting to believe he isn't capable of eating, he wants to so bad but just cant seem to function his mouth or something.

[Mentat]

Your frog is active and is not a candidate for death. Can you please post a pic to see how skinny it is? Thank you !

[smashley]

okay! Here are a couple of shots from just now. Do you know how long they can survive without eating?
He has been sort of puffed up for a day or so now, he was pretty bony looking a couple days ago (and he hasn't eaten since then). He is probably 1.5-2 inches long, nose to butt. How often can I put him in a 10% pedialyte/90% dechlorinated water bath? I was advised to leave him in for about 20 minutes, can I do this daily while he is recovering?

[BlueKiwiOca]

Even if he has a feeding response, and wants to catch the food, perhaps force-feeding is a good option here. He does look quite skinny. Leave it another day or so and continue with the daily Pedialyte baths, pulling the legs off crickets etc. If he still can't catch them, I or someone else can help walk you through force-feeding him. I found when my frog was sick he'd kind of gotten out of practice when it came to catching food... he'd lunge for it but miss. Maybe he just needs to get his rhythm back so to speak

[flybyferns]

okay! Here are a couple of shots from just now. Do you know how long they can survive without eating?
He has been sort of puffed up for a day or so now, he was pretty bony looking a couple days ago (and he hasn't eaten since then). He is probably 1.5-2 inches long, nose to butt. How often can I put him in a 10% pedialyte/90% dechlorinated water bath? I was advised to leave him in for about 20 minutes, can I do this daily while he is recovering?

I'm so sorry about your frog He absolutely CAN be saved

I believe he is ill and needs medication asap
( if there a poop still around -save it -- so the vet can do a fecal study )

I wish I could come by to help you. This really has nothing to do with NOT eating . It's the other way around . He is not eating because he is sick.

If it has been more than 5 days. You could feed him 2 squished , dusted cricks without legs.
( be sure the food is NOT liquid ! ) Be very careful... his skin is very fragile right now. Wrap him in dampened paper towels/use powerless gloves / dampen your hands - with or w/out gloves. Best if you have 2 people for this. Use a soft flexible bowl scraper to get his lips open and push the food in. Balance the food on the end of the spatula while you are getting his mouth open. Return him to the glass immediate. Protect him from a startled jump in response to being handled. Then leave him be.. and don't handle him unless absolutely necessary

You can continue the soaks. Rather thank pick him up and place him into the soaking dish......dribble the water on to his back ( not his face) for 15 mins -- while he is sleeping

The vet may have a different solution for soaking?
In the meantime ----the pedi solution should be made with distilled water----( 1:10) ( one part pedi: 10 parts distilled water)

The soaking dish water must be de-chorinated with a de-chlorinator safe for amphibians
ie Aquqtize (exo-terra - product)

Find a new very shallow water dish ( glass if possible ) - one that can be boiled ie shallow plant or cup saucer. He looks too weak to get into that dish. Boil it before you place it into the hospital tank. Make yourself extra soaking dish water. If he is not soaking on his own dribble water on his back during the day while he is sleeping. Clean the soaking dish daily under HOT tap water.

Review the care sheet:
Frog Forum - White's Tree Frog Care - Litoria caerulea

You need to get him out of his enclosure and into a sterilized hospital tank ( cheap 5 gallon glass tank ) with a lid to keep him safe.
**** maintain the proper temps in the tank ......... 85 degrees during the day !!!!!! This is imperative !
http://www.frogforum.net/general-dis...uarantine.html

Dampen the paper towel in the hospital tank w/ de-chlorinated water and change daily - -when he is sleeping
Do everything possible .........not disturb him.

Drape the tank with a towel- he will feel safer.

His current enclosure needs to be broken down and sterilized before he goes back in it. Remove ALL substrate and toss it. What ever cannot be boiled or baked needs to be thrown away.

If you do not have a herp vet:
Dr Frye's contact:
http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-prepared.html

You can e-mail Dr Frye today and you will have an answer today
In your email include the photos you posted here- especially 1st photo ,an approximate measurement of the frog snout to vent, a brief description of the frog's recent care, and how long you have had him.
Medications can be purchased via credit card and mailed to you.

Please , keep us posted !
Lynn