New baby adspersus. You know you love THEM!

[NialR35]

Hello fellow froggers!

Already on my second week as a frog owner, and after doing much research; I ordered my Pyxicephalus adspersus from LLLreptile. I got this very healthy/active baby that hoped out of the deli cup as soon as I opened it and ate five night crawler pieces on his/her first night!( I was surprised this little one ate so much in the first night, very big +++). I will try to keep this post of mine updated with pictures as he grows up, for the entertainment of us frog lovers !



Questions:

1. Approximately how much do YOUR pyxies eat at full grown size? I need to do some calculations from now.
2. Also I've read different things about Aestivation...what is your opinion on this? Is this necessary or it's just inevitable? I've read that it can cause death sometimes, so what's the best thing to do when the time comes?
3. Last but not least, I dust for my pacman Ca+D3 x2 per week and multivitamin x1 per week, is this also enough for a growing baby pyxie? should I dust the first item ONLY or every item in the feeding session?

Thank you all!

[Truffs1178]

1. I just got my baby last month, was the same size as yours and now its 4 inches. It isn't even fully grown and can eat about 10 crickets, 5 night crawlers, 3 adult Dubias a couple of pachnodas and a locust in 24 hours(that's his record). So they will eat loads when fully grown.

2. I have no clue. It's not inevitable if you keep your frog at warm temperatures all year round and I don't think it's necessary.(not 100% sure though)

3. I dust mine with calcium+d3 every other day and dust about half of what he eats. I dust with multivitamin once a week and dust all the prey items. Don't dust to heavily though, just a fine coat should cover the insects or whatever you feed him/her.

Bear in mind it will eat loads more if its a male when its an adult just to sustain its large size. I'm just taking a guess her but I think it's a male but its stil way, way to young to tell. Anyway keep us updated on your frog. Hope I helped.

[Lija]

what a beautiful baby! take tons of pics, s/he'll be changing overnight lol

dust every second feeding with ca/vit d3 and once week multivitamins, but don't mix them same day. while they're babies and growing at the rate, that you know they will but seeing it will shock you anyway, they need more ca then 2xweek. dust everything you feed that day.
how much it will eat? I'll tell you this - open a savings account if you have a boy, and start big dubia colony right away. lol
they eat a lot it can easily eat 10-15 nightcrawlers at a time if that is a girl, way, way more if that is a big boy lol

yes, aestivation is dangerous if done incorrectly, however is not necessary. Just go with a flow, at some point a frog will want to burry deep and stop eating or start eating less, so just go with it not changing temps or anything else.

[NialR35]

Thanks guys for your help!

@Lija: Do they really eat that much? wow that savings account comment freaked me out lol. I thought an adult male would be fine with 4 large earthworms every 2-3 days...this isn't enough?

[Truffs1178]

For an adult male that's no where near enough. My baby male can eat more than that in two minutes lol.

[Lija]

hahaha lol haha oh gosh that is a good one lol 4 earthworms every 2-3 days lol you mean earthworms right that are smaller then canadian nightcrawlers?

I'll tell you how my 5" female ate last week ( if i remember right, i don't have her feeding log here, but the amount should be about her usual)
mon- 8 nightcrawlers ( these huge ones), tue 20 crickets, wed 10 nightcrawlers, fri 10 nigthcrawlers, sun 30 crickets + 5 huge hornworms.

imagine a frog that is twice her size, i believe Grif said currently his 3 month old baby is eating about 20 nightcrawlers per feeding lol calculating $?

but seriously you should look into starting dubia colony, it may save you quite a bit and you can sell off if you have too many.

[GrifTheGreat]

The most my male has eaten in a single feeding was 3 balls of Pacman food and over 20 Night Crawlers.

I don't want to devulge his latest meal. It was rediculous and he was still hungry the next day.

[NialR35]

hahaha lol haha oh gosh that is a good one lol 4 earthworms every 2-3 days lol you mean earthworms right that are smaller then canadian nightcrawlers?

I'll tell you how my 5" female ate last week ( if i remember right, i don't have her feeding log here, but the amount should be about her usual)
mon- 8 nightcrawlers ( these huge ones), tue 20 crickets, wed 10 nightcrawlers, fri 10 nigthcrawlers, sun 30 crickets + 5 huge hornworms.

imagine a frog that is twice her size, i believe Grif said currently his 3 month old baby is eating about 20 nightcrawlers per feeding lol calculating $?

but seriously you should look into starting dubia colony, it may save you quite a bit and you can sell off if you have too many.

Yea, I meant Canadian Night crawlers I don't think it matters because apparently 3-4 wont be enough....damn I hope I get females lol...
Do you buy yours worms in bulk?

[NialR35]

Hahaha that would be good news for my wallet! But yea its a bit too early but I love the debates for the entertainment. Some pics look more female that others, while others look more towards male.

I love watching them grow....too bad my ornate just grows but doesnt really change much lol.

[Lija]

I'm leaning more towards female too, but it might be a male too, too early yet. s/he is so pretty!

[GrifTheGreat]

Hmmmm.....I'm going to say male with 75% certainty. The distance from eyes to snout is looking good. Females tend to have a short snout.

[NialR35]

I love how males look when fully grown, like a rhino. Females are okay but "they eat less" unless you end up with a grabibus part 2 lol.

I don't know if it makes a difference but I took these pics right after I fed him/her. So the sides look wider than usual because he/she was full. Head seems triangular enough though.

[NialR35]

After tonight's feeding. Sometimes I go to sleep, and when I wake up in the morning my frog morphed into stage 2 monster lol. Reminds me of how fast Hornworms grow(Which I have to refrigerate for a couple of days now to halt growth).

[SCF]

After tonight's feeding. Sometimes I go to sleep, and when I wake up in the morning my frog morphed into stage 2 monster lol. Reminds me of how fast Hornworms grow(Which I have to refrigerate for a couple of days now to halt growth).

It's a female. =)

[NialR35]

I hope so! then I won't have to upgrade the tank and feed slightly less hehehehe.

[Mentat]

Wow somehow missed this thread! Very cute baby, you got it really tiny. Based on the first and last set of pics, will go with male, due to it's face . Once they reach around 4 in. males usually start croaking and then you will know for sure.

[NialR35]

Hahahaha, thanks Carlos!

Yea I'm kinda hoping for a male because I like how they look better than females, I can see he/she does have a big triangular head for its size but at this point I will be happy with whatever I get because I love my froggy. Only time will truly tell

[NialR35]

Only took a couple of pics, will post more when I get a chance!



What do you guys think?

[Mentat]

How big is it now from snout to vent (SVL)?

[NialR35]

How big is it now from snout to vent (SVL)?

I have not measured him/her but it's around 3 1/2 " SVL and he/she is 2 months and 3 weeks. I think at this point it can turn either male or female