Am I overfeeding my pacman frog?

[Terrencexyk11]

I recently acquired a baby pacman frog. I have no idea how old it was when I got it. Right now it's feeding on 1 to 2 superworms a day and a ball of pacman food once ever 2 to 3 days. It's currently 5cm in diameter.. Am I overfeeding her with superworms everyday?

[danfrog]

No more superworms please. The hard shell can cause impaction. Go with nightcrawlers they are much better as a staple. I would use the pacman food every couple weeks instead of every couple days. Pacman frogs are great at not over eating. Offer food nightly till it doesn't want any more.

[Terrencexyk11]

Somehow mine prefer to eat in the day. Unfortunately nightcrawlers arent available in my state so im kinda stuck with superworms.

[mpmackenna]

What state do you live in? Do they have fishing in your state? If they don't have fishing, move.


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[Terrencexyk11]

They probably use earth worms rather than night crawlers.. Are there any confirmed cases of impaction from superworms? Arent they suppose to eat other type of insects in the wild? How will superworms affect them? Any experts mind to clarify this? =)

[SCF]

Here is a quote from John, the forum admin on his take on mealworms, which have even more chitin. or a "hard shell" than superworms. I'm not suggesting at all you constantly use superworms, but if you do not have anything on hand at the time, they will not kill your animal. Like everyone else had suggested, I would look into other feeders to use as a main food source.

I don't believe in them causing impaction. I've yet to see a solid piece of evidence for it or even an anecdote from anyone with a reputation. It makes no sense to me that animals (frogs) that are designed to eat chitin-rich food (mealworms) should have a problem passing it. The one thing I do know about mealworms and the like is that the guts of younger frogs sometimes are not able to break through the exoskeleton before the worm is passed out of the digestive tract. So occasionally they can pass whole mealworms or partially undigested mealworms.

I've never had a problem either...

[MatthewM1]

Super worms are softer than mealworms and can be used occasionally. But should not make up a significant portion of the diet.

But If your frog is prone to impaction avoid completely.

Walmart carries nightcrawlers that are safe for use as feeders as Danfrog has previously stated they are your best bet for the main staple of your frogs diet. They can also be ordered online and keep for quite a while in the fridge

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[nok1888]

What's nightcrawlers


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2.0 Border Collies - Jinky and Chance
3.0 Cats - Monty, Dodger and Crunchie
1.1 Royal Pythons Orlina and Sedrick
0.1 BCI Boa - Aasia
1.0 Western Hognose - Hagrid
0.1 Bearded Dragon - iiara

[Truffs1178]

What's nightcrawlers


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2.0 Border Collies - Jinky and Chance
3.0 Cats - Monty, Dodger and Crunchie
1.1 Royal Pythons Orlina and Sedrick
0.1 BCI Boa - Aasia
1.0 Western Hognose - Hagrid
0.1 Bearded Dragon - iiara

It's what Americans call worms....I think, if not then I have been using the term Nightcrawler on here very wrong.

[Mentat]

What state do you live in? Do they have fishing in your state? If they don't have fishing, move.

Guess you love fishing ! BTW, the OP lives in Malaysia!

They probably use earth worms rather than night crawlers.. Are there any confirmed cases of impaction from superworms? Arent they suppose to eat other type of insects in the wild? How will superworms affect them? Any experts mind to clarify this? =)

If you look at this chart: Nutritional Values of Amphibian Foods; will see that although superworms are not listed, similar beetle worms are very high in fat. For that reason, they are not recommended as a staple food and are nutritionally inferior to earthworms. I have no experience with Pacman food (imagine Samurai?) so won't comment on it.

What's nightcrawlers

Night crawlers are a large species of earthworms. In U.S. most are Canadian NC; but you can also get European and African NCs.

[nok1888]

Oh right lol


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2.0 Border Collies - Jinky and Chance
3.0 Cats - Monty, Dodger and Crunchie
1.1 Royal Pythons Orlina and Sedrick
0.1 BCI Boa - Aasia
1.0 Western Hognose - Hagrid
0.1 Bearded Dragon - iiara

[mpmackenna]

Guess you love fishing ! BTW, the OP lives in Malaysia!

He said unavailable in his state. I guess I assumed state meant US. I didn't realize Malaysia is divided in to states. We US citizens just assume that everybody lives here.... : )




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[MatthewM1]

Woops I clicked on wrong profile and thought US

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[Terrencexyk11]

I would gladly live in the US if I could. Haha..!

[Lija]

haha people lol
he has nasutas hanging out in his backyard probably so I am jealous!

as for nightcrawlers - friend of mine describes nightcrawlers vs earthworms this way - imagine European people moving to US and eating all american stereotypical diet lol

no offense intended lol

[Truffs1178]

Canadian nightcrawlers are bigger but need to be kept cooler so you should put them in the fridge. European nightcrawlers also move along the substrate quicker so they might be more inviting to your frog. BTW lumbricus terrestris which is commonly called the Canadian Nightcrawler is actually native to Europe and was introduced to other parts of the world, like Canada for example. Here we call them Lob Worms. So there you go, the useless fact of the day.

[mpmackenna]

Ha. Love it. That kind of **** fascinates me.

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[GrifTheGreat]

The native Giant Earthworm of the US was thought extinct at one point, but has been found in a small area somewhere in the Northwest. Of course they are endangered now.

[Mentat]

The native Giant Earthworm of the US was thought extinct at one point, but has been found in a small area somewhere in the Northwest. Of course they are endangered now.

Thanks for information guys! Had no idea of this worm "Driloleirus americanus" existance. Would be nice if it recovers and some are breed by worm farms. A 1.5 foot or more worm would be great to feed the larger frogs .

[GrifTheGreat]

Thanks for information guys! Had no idea of this worm "Driloleirus americanus" existance. Would be nice if it recovers and some are breed by worm farms. A 1.5 foot or more worm would be great to feed the larger frogs .

Exactly!!! They do look a little different from the Night Crawlers we love as feeders, but I'm not sure whether these Giants sucrete any toxins like Red Wigglers do. I honestly don't know anything about them aside from them being rare and endangered.