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    I got my pacman sunday and fed him 3 crickets the day I got him. After that he didn't eat until yesterday, Thursday. The lady at the pet store said he couldn't go after the food himself so I've been holding the crickets with tweezers instead. I don't know if it's a male or female.
    Often, when I look at him, he's breathing hard and his head is bobbing as if shes stressed out. I have her in a 10 gallon tank. The temperatures been around 70-75 during the day and at night maybe 70-65. The humidity is usually 40%. But what really worries me is that it look like his backbone is showing. I know they can't starve that quickly, but I don't know what this is. It looks like two bones sticking out above his tail as if he's bony from starving. These are my main concerns about him. Could someone please give me some advice.

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    Hello and welcome to FF! First thing for you to do is to please read this: Frog Forum - Pacman and Horned Frogs - Ceratophrys - Care and Breeding . Second is to tell us your baby frog size because a 10G is normally too big and will stress out a baby. Third is to answer these questions because already can tell the temperature is too cold and humidity too low (daytime should be 82-84F and humidity 80%). Thank you !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceratophrysornata View Post
    I got my pacman sunday and fed him 3 crickets the day I got him. After that he didn't eat until yesterday, Thursday. The lady at the pet store said he couldn't go after the food himself so I've been holding the crickets with tweezers instead. I don't know if it's a male or female.
    Often, when I look at him, he's breathing hard and his head is bobbing as if shes stressed out. I have her in a 10 gallon tank. The temperatures been around 70-75 during the day and at night maybe 70-65. The humidity is usually 40%. But what really worries me is that it look like his backbone is showing. I know they can't starve that quickly, but I don't know what this is. It looks like two bones sticking out above his tail as if he's bony from starving. These are my main concerns about him. Could someone please give me some advice.
    The temperatures are too low. Day should be around 82 and around 78 at night. The humidity is WAY too low it should be around 80%. Could you post some pics of the setup and frog? Mine bobs his head up and down and breathes rapidly when I am feeding or doing anything with him or his enclosure because he is a very timid frog but yours is probably stressed because you need I change the conditions he's in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truffs1178 View Post
    The temperatures are too low. Day should be around 82 and around 78 at night. The humidity is WAY too low it should be around 80%. Could you post some pics of the setup and frog? Mine bobs his head up and down and breathes rapidly when I am feeding or doing anything with him or his enclosure because he is a very timid frog but yours is probably stressed because you need I change the conditions he's in.


    What kind of light should I have? One of the workers at the pet store reccomended I get a 60 watt so I did. Would it stay more humid in one of those plastic bins? I feel like I would have to soak the place to get it to 80%. My real question was about the bones in his back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceratophrysornata View Post
    What kind of light should I have? One of the workers at the pet store reccomended I get a 60 watt so I did. Would it stay more humid in one of those plastic bins? I feel like I would have to soak the place to get it to 80%. My real question was about the bones in his back.
    You need to post pictures of the frog and it's setup.

    I will also suggest that you answer the questions Carlos posted here.


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    Nothing over 50 watts. Nothing with uvb/uva. If yours is an albino get an incandescent bulb.

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