Beginner dart frog?

[Tonya Freeman]

Are tinctorius and azureus 2 different frogs? I was thinking of keeping 3-5 azureus depending on the size of terrarium I get, not sure if the do well in groups though

They are considered to be tincs, although things were recently changed to classify Azureus as their own species. Azureus females are very territorial and can be just mean at times. It is not impossible to keep a group of them.. but when dealing with a tinc species it is best to keep them in pairs or male heavy trios.

Now.. that being said, if you were going to keep a large group of Azureus, I would really recommend a HUGE setup. Most I've heard of who attempt to do that are working with over 100 gallon vivs. They are set up to include many visual barriers. Males will get along fine as long as they each have their own calling spot. Females are mostly territoral of the males in the group. If you have an extremely male heavy group of 4.1 or possibly 3.2 you may be fine if they are all added as juveniles. You would need to be prepared to pull any frogs out that are not thriving once maturity hits. Having them grow up together will be a lot easier than introducing adult Azureus to each other. Even with juveniles, as they mature you will probably see some wrestling. That is fine at first (or even occasionally) as long as it doesn't get to the point where they are stressing a particular frog.

Some people do just fine with a large tinc group.. but majority have found it to be better when having a pair or trio. You could always start off with a group and pair them up as they age to split into 2 enclosures as well. That would help with stress, aggression, and breeding if you were planning on going that route. Females will eat the other females eggs in some situations.

I thank I'm getting luecomelas as I like them the most

I think that is a great choice. I adore mine. Their call is beautiful, although louder than most. It resembles a bird chip of some sorts.. and really gives that rainforest feeling!