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    Default Possible to over feed a juvenile C. Cranwelli?

    I have had my frog for a couple of weeks. I offered about a two inch piece of night crawler tonight via tongs and after a little nose rub action the frog ate it. Then it occurred to me that the frog already ate a few crickets the night before and he/she looks a little bloated. Is there danger in feeding too much? I am also attaching a couple of crappy phone pics so you can see the frog and let me know what you think. What about leaving crickets in the tank. It seems there are always a couple of stragglers hopping around, is that a problem?
    Also I measure 2 inch SVL what do you think that makes the age of this frog?

    Thanks.

    1. Size of enclosure -- 10 Gallon -- Part blocked off so as to not stress with the big enclosure, seems to be settling in fine.
    2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences --- just the pacman and a couple of crickets at the moment
    3. Humidity -- 80%
    4. Temperature -- 83F/Day 78F/night
    5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish -- Tap treated with de-chlorinator
    6. Materials used for substrate -- Eco-Earth
    7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials.
    - How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv. -- Water dish and a hide. -- washed and sanitized with a little vinegar (read that is a good idea, please correct if wrong)
    8. Main food source -- crickets, night crawler chunks
    9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often) -- RepCal Herptivite and CalciumD3 supplement. I rotate 2 calcium for every one vitamins and dust every other feeding. I think that is what I heard on a IvoryReptile vid.
    10. Lighting -- Incandescent red light for additional heat. Some indirect sun light during the day from a nearby closed window.
    11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure -- Zoo Med UTH... on the side and the incandescent bulb.
    12. When is the last time he/she ate -- about 10 minutes ago.
    13. Have you found poop lately --- Sunday night
    14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine) I will attach a couple of crummy cell phone pics
    15. How old is the frog -- You tell me -- a juvenile of some sort -- measures 2inches SVL
    16. How long have you owned him/her -- about two weeks
    17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred -- Captive
    18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats. Just crickets and night crawler chunks so far. I also order some of the Zoo Med Pacman food to try.
    19. How often the frog is handled. -- A couple times so far to coax it in to the water dish for a soak
    20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area. -- Fairly low traffic. It's my office.
    21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc). I change dish water every day and substrate every few weeks to a month. I rotate squeeze and fluff eco-earth once a week.

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    Default Re: Possible to over feed a juvenile C. Cranwelli?

    Pacmans do not overeat normally. Would not feed more than once a day for a two inch frog. Once it reaches around 3.5 in. you might note a less than enthusiastic response to food; that's your signal to start feeding every other day.

    I don't leave feeders on enclosure once frog stops feeding and remove any remaining ones. Crickets can bite frog or pester it by walking over it's body. Good luck !
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    Thanks. I will remove uneaten prey and keep feeding to regular 24 hr intervals.


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    Ah looks like he needs to poop! Feel his right side does it feel hard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danfrog View Post
    Ah looks like he needs to poop! Feel his right side does it feel hard?
    That is kind of what I was thinking. It doesn't feel hard, kind of squishy. I just coaxed him in to the water dish to see if a soak will help.

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    Kk. Might be because he is full too. They are pretty good at not over eating.

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    Oh yeah! Being a Cranwelli feed at night an hour or so after lights out. If you wernt tracking. But offer food nightly till it gets its fill (usually with a headbutt, or turning away).

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    Quote Originally Posted by danfrog View Post
    Oh yeah! Being a Cranwelli feed at night an hour or so after lights out. If you wernt tracking. But offer food nightly till it gets its fill (usually with a headbutt, or turning away).
    Define "headbutt", please.

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    Kinda like a fast push away with its snout.

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    Default Re: Possible to over feed a juvenile C. Cranwelli?

    My Tona is a voracious eating machine, I know he eats 3 locusts exactly, when I offer more, he bites down but releases again. Headbutting looks funny, it's the pacman thrusting forward with it's head. It looks like an attack on prey but with a closed mouth. How many crickets do you offer normally? If he still eats after you've allready fed him on the same night, I think you need to drop a few more!

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