Water bowls for mature pixie frogs are optional!

[mattfish]

Are you being serious or just messin?



I don't know what rat breeders are like over in Michigan but not all are like that.



Are you for real?

Matt you may be interested in this video. They care about their rats as he says in the video so they have space. Just 3 females and 1 male per tub.

Southern Rodent Supply Facilty - YouTube

In one of his other videos he also states that they clean their rats every five days.

Yes i am for real. Almost all rat breeders have 1 to 3-4 ratio. And yes they clean them out or the rats would be swimming in urine. Have you ever had 4-5 large rats in one tub before and then wait 5 days to clean it? NASTY!!! now multiply that by 20 to 30. and add in no regulations from the government. You have no idea how nasty and easily disease ridden things can become. Like i said this knowledge i am giving is first hand. have you ever walked threw the facility were your feeder rats come from? I have!!!

The vast majority is like this, i am talking for every 1 nicely ran facility there are 20 others with big problems. stop kidding yourselves.

[Truffs1178]

stop kidding yourselves.

Stop kidding yourselves? You know matt I'm getting really annoyed with your pointless, arrogant posts. If wild swallows are so safe then why don't you eat them? Why won't you just accept that people are disagreeing with you and that there are better food sources than wild caught animals. For starters mammals, fish and birds are no where near as good feeders as insects such as cockroaches and your statement about if earthworms are your frogs staple then you are depriving them of nutrients is plain stupid. There are more parasites, diseases and bacteria in wild caught foods, just realise that! You are always saying that it will boost your frogs immunity and the stomach will destroy all pathogens or parasites that enter but not all can be destroyed especially eggs of such parasites. Can you please give up trying to persuade everyone into getting their pets wild caught food, taking away their water bowls and getting our frogs ill or even killed. Grow up, face the truth and stop wasting everyone's time.

[mattfish]

Stop kidding yourselves? You know matt I'm getting really annoyed with your pointless, arrogant posts. If wild swallows are so safe then why don't you eat them? Why won't you just accept that people are disagreeing with you and that there are better food sources than wild caught animals. For starters mammals, fish and birds are no where near as good feeders as insects such as cockroaches and your statement about if earthworms are your frogs staple then you are depriving them of nutrients is plain stupid. There are more parasites, diseases and bacteria in wild caught foods, just realise that! You are always saying that it will boost your frogs immunity and the stomach will destroy all pathogens or parasites that enter but not all can be destroyed especially eggs of such parasites. Can you please give up trying to persuade everyone into getting their pets wild caught food, taking away their water bowls and getting our frogs ill or even killed. Grow up, face the truth and stop wasting everyone's time.

Jack i am suprised at this last response. These important facts are not pointless. I am opening alot of peoples eyes to a broader, healthier diet plan for their prized pets. I cant eat a sparrow raw because i have an immune system different than Pixies. sparrows actually live in africa so pixies already eat those every chance they can get even today. time will tell if my frog out lives those other frogs with a staple diet of insects and worms. I believe that they should start feeding more naturally vitamin efficiant animals that possess bones and larger brains and bigger livers for the frogs better health to pull from. My frog is not ill at all as you say it should be or definitely will become. I have been doing this for over 6 months before i even opened my mouth about how great it is. I have a blast finding weird food for Mr. Pickles to eat. He eats what ever i give soooo fast that it shocks people who watch. I am speaking about something that WORKS. It works so well that i am not going to back down, and just because people want to hide behind fear and lash out at me doesnt mean i am wrong or a waist of time.

I dont have a water bowl and i have added healthy wild animals to my Frogs diet and he is FANTASTIC. Not just for now but he is going to rock for many years to come. common sense tells me so.

[Mentat]

It's time everyone takes a deep breath and relax. It's clear no one here will convince Matt to change his ways or vice versa. So let each other be and end this debate with a friendly digital hand shake.

If you don't like what Matt does or preaches and already said your 2 cents; leave the thread and suddenly you won't get annoyed by it.

Also, expect everyone in this discussion does not suddenly drag it into and derail other threads in forum. The subject has been beaten to death here already and it's time to move on and be nice to each other and our frogs. Thank you !