Water bowls for mature pixie frogs are optional!

[danfrog]

Mattfish. You have very unusual care procedures for you frog. I would like to see exactly how keeping your frog, I'm just curious.

“Trouble in the Frog Enclosure” The following information will be very helpful if provided when requesting assistance with either your frog or enclosure. To help with your questions, please utilize the below list and post the information in the proper forum area to get advice from FF members that keep the same frog. This will allow for little confusion and a faster more informed response.

1. Size of enclosure?

2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences?

3. Humidity?

4. Temperature?

5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish?

6. Materials used for substrate?

7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials. - How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv?

8. Main food source?

9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often?)

10. Lighting?

11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure?

12. When is the last time he/she ate?

13. Have you found poop lately?

14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)

15. How old is the frog?

16. How long have you owned him/her?

17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred?

18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats?

19. How often the frog is handled?

20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area?

21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)


by Lynn(Flybyferns) and GrifTheGreat.

[mattfish]

Mattfish. You have very unusual care procedures for you frog. I would like to see exactly how keeping your frog, I'm just curious.

“Trouble in the Frog Enclosure” The following information will be very helpful if provided when requesting assistance with either your frog or enclosure. To help with your questions, please utilize the below list and post the information in the proper forum area to get advice from FF members that keep the same frog. This will allow for little confusion and a faster more informed response.

1. Size of enclosure?

2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences?

3. Humidity?

4. Temperature?

5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish?

6. Materials used for substrate?

7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials. - How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv?

8. Main food source?

9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often?)

10. Lighting?

11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure?

12. When is the last time he/she ate?

13. Have you found poop lately?

14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)

15. How old is the frog?

16. How long have you owned him/her?

17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred?

18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats?

19. How often the frog is handled?

20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area?

21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)


by Lynn(Flybyferns) and GrifTheGreat.

thank you for taking me seriously Danfrog, i would be happy to answer those questions.
1. 18" x 18" x24" high
2. 1
3. right now 59% but that varies as the substrate evaporates and drys out
4.lights on 82-85 degrees lights off 73-75 degrees
5. declorinated water
6. coco fiber (stuff that comes as a dry brick)
7. 2 fake plants, and i always sanitize them with diluted bleach 1/100 parts, then rinse until they dont smell of any bleach
8. Fish (i think they might be bluegills, i get them at the market)
9. "repashy supervite" but i only use it when i feed him crickets once every couple months
10. 2) 20 watt haligen puck lights for light and heat
11. i have a rainforest tiny undertank heater that is on a dimmer, the laser heat gun shows it is always at 76 degrees. it is under the very center of the bottom and is maybe 5" x 5" (he rarely ever sits over it) and the haligens lights
12. He now eats every 3-4 days
13. he poops almost every feeding, but sometimes every other, within a few minutes after he ate
14. i dont know how to add a pick to this response page but you can check him out on youtube. i just did a video last week of him. its under "african bullfrog pixie eats bird and clean his cage"
15. i thought he was 10 months old but my wife reminded me we got him before our 3rd kid was born so he is 1year and a few months old. (time flies)
16. size of a quarter
17. i dont know
18. rats, mice, crickets, those big green caterpillar looking things, superworms, earthworms, snakes, birds .
19. every 3-4 days, i feed him in a different container
20. medium traffic
21. about every 2-3 weeks during a feeding, i take all his old bedding out. wipe down the inside with a wet rag that has 1/100 parts bleach to water on it. (which is very diluted and you can hardly smell the bleach even then) so any living mold or parasite dies. them i rinse every thing down with water, drain the tank and wipe with a totally clean rag (no chemicals) rinse everything down again. then i drain it and dump in new bedding. this part you can see on that youtube video. it is simple and easy. now only time will tell if i am an idiot or a genius. i have been doing this routine for well over six months now and he has beautiful deep colors.

thank you danfrog for showing an interest in a possible "other way" of frog care

[Monza geckos]

thank you for taking me seriously Danfrog, i would be happy to answer those questions.
1. 18" x 18" x24" high
2. 1
3. right now 59% but that varies as the substrate evaporates and drys out
4.lights on 82-85 degrees lights off 73-75 degrees
5. declorinated water
6. coco fiber (stuff that comes as a dry brick)
7. 2 fake plants, and i always sanitize them with diluted bleach 1/100 parts, then rinse until they dont smell of any bleach
8. Fish (i think they might be bluegills, i get them at the market)
9. "repashy supervite" but i only use it when i feed him crickets once every couple months
10. 2) 20 watt haligen puck lights for light and heat
11. i have a rainforest tiny undertank heater that is on a dimmer, the laser heat gun shows it is always at 76 degrees. it is under the very center of the bottom and is maybe 5" x 5" (he rarely ever sits over it) and the haligens lights
12. He now eats every 3-4 days
13. he poops almost every feeding, but sometimes every other, within a few minutes after he ate
14. i dont know how to add a pick to this response page but you can check him out on youtube. i just did a video last week of him. its under "african bullfrog pixie eats bird and clean his cage"
15. i thought he was 10 months old but my wife reminded me we got him before our 3rd kid was born so he is 1year and a few months old. (time flies)
16. size of a quarter
17. i dont know
18. rats, mice, crickets, those big green caterpillar looking things, superworms, earthworms, snakes, birds .
19. every 3-4 days, i feed him in a different container
20. medium traffic
21. about every 2-3 weeks during a feeding, i take all his old bedding out. wipe down the inside with a wet rag that has 1/100 parts bleach to water on it. (which is very diluted and you can hardly smell the bleach even then) so any living mold or parasite dies. them i rinse every thing down with water, drain the tank and wipe with a totally clean rag (no chemicals) rinse everything down again. then i drain it and dump in new bedding. this part you can see on that youtube video. it is simple and easy. now only time will tell if i am an idiot or a genius. i have been doing this routine for well over six months now and he has beautiful deep colors.

thank you danfrog for showing an interest in a possible "other way" of frog care

no one is taking you serious because that's is the worst possible advice I've heard

[mattfish]

Yet my frog is thriving! the proof is in the pudding. His color is deep and he eats anything agressively for over six months now and counting. I think people are taking me seriously. If they want this frog without all the maintenance, they should take me seriously. this way works. But If you like doing what you are doing, stick with it! I am only offering a less time consuming way. isnt that what this forum is all about?

[gullywhippet]

frogs like water lets give em what they like, slam dunk!

[Mentat]

...21. about every 2-3 weeks during a feeding, i take all his old bedding out. wipe down the inside with a wet rag that has 1/100 parts bleach to water on it. (which is very diluted and you can hardly smell the bleach even then) so any living mold or parasite dies...

There are parasite, bacteria, and viruses that have resistant spores or stages that will survive pure household bleach; much easier a 1/100 solution .

[NialR35]

Not only bleach is already bad, but it's so diluted in your method that it totally removes its efficiency. You would be better off spraying WIPE OUT 1 all over the glass to make sure it gets disinfected and sanitized without harming your frog and without any worries.

[NialR35]

thank you for taking me seriously Danfrog, i would be happy to answer those questions.
1. 18" x 18" x24" high
2. 1
3. right now 59% but that varies as the substrate evaporates and drys out
4.lights on 82-85 degrees lights off 73-75 degrees
5. declorinated water
6. coco fiber (stuff that comes as a dry brick)
7. 2 fake plants, and i always sanitize them with diluted bleach 1/100 parts, then rinse until they dont smell of any bleach
8. Fish (i think they might be bluegills, i get them at the market)
9. "repashy supervite" but i only use it when i feed him crickets once every couple months
10. 2) 20 watt haligen puck lights for light and heat
11. i have a rainforest tiny undertank heater that is on a dimmer, the laser heat gun shows it is always at 76 degrees. it is under the very center of the bottom and is maybe 5" x 5" (he rarely ever sits over it) and the haligens lights
12. He now eats every 3-4 days
13. he poops almost every feeding, but sometimes every other, within a few minutes after he ate
14. i dont know how to add a pick to this response page but you can check him out on youtube. i just did a video last week of him. its under "african bullfrog pixie eats bird and clean his cage"
15. i thought he was 10 months old but my wife reminded me we got him before our 3rd kid was born so he is 1year and a few months old. (time flies)
16. size of a quarter
17. i dont know
18. rats, mice, crickets, those big green caterpillar looking things, superworms, earthworms, snakes, birds .
19. every 3-4 days, i feed him in a different container
20. medium traffic
21. about every 2-3 weeks during a feeding, i take all his old bedding out. wipe down the inside with a wet rag that has 1/100 parts bleach to water on it. (which is very diluted and you can hardly smell the bleach even then) so any living mold or parasite dies. them i rinse every thing down with water, drain the tank and wipe with a totally clean rag (no chemicals) rinse everything down again. then i drain it and dump in new bedding. this part you can see on that youtube video. it is simple and easy. now only time will tell if i am an idiot or a genius. i have been doing this routine for well over six months now and he has beautiful deep colors.

thank you danfrog for showing an interest in a possible "other way" of frog care

You MUST start dusting supplements since apparently you only do it when you feed crickets every couple of months; that is horrible. You should also change your frog's staple diet because fish is not going to do it. Captive bred frogs should be fed insects as the main staple source with other small vertebrates as a monthly treat only. Like I mentioned before, an AGBF can live up to 15-20 years in captivity with proper care therefore if you want your frog to live this long and reduce the possibilities of your frog getting diseases, syndromes, deformities then you must start dusting Ca+D3 at least twice per week and a multi-vitamin once per week.

Also humidity at 59% is very low to what an ideal range would be; it should remain at a constant 75-80% all the time. Humidity is also a factor in the frog's stress level and helps its digestive system as well.

[mattfish]

bleach at 1/100 still kills. Doctors will tell you that if you have a well balanced diet you really have no need for any suppliments. Suppliments are never the real thing. fish bones are a great form of calcium. Fish oils are a great digestive track lube. fish liver has tons of multivitimins. so how is fish a bad thing? fish are one of the main staples of water frogs. thats just common sense and fact. But "wipe out" is a good idea and i will try it. thank you for helping me with that.

[GrifTheGreat]

bleach at 1/100 still kills. Doctors will tell you that if you have a well balanced diet you really have no need for any suppliments. Suppliments are never the real thing. fish bones are a great form of calcium. Fish oils are a great digestive track lube. fish liver has tons of multivitimins. so how is fish a bad thing? fish are one of the main staples of water frogs. thats just common sense and fact. But "wipe out" is a good idea and i will try it. thank you for helping me with that.

Some fish can cause a Vitamin B1 deficirncy if fed too often. Mainly those that contain thiaminase.

Also many fish contain lots kf heavy metals. Especially mercury.

They are not a good staple food, but do make a good treat.

[mattfish]

Some fish can cause a Vitamin B1 deficirncy if fed too often. Mainly those that contain thiaminase.

Also many fish contain lots kf heavy metals. Especially mercury.

They are not a good staple food, but do make a good treat.

"Some" fish is the key word, but you just stepped out Grif and i am glad to see that. Fish are a fantastic feeder. I would much rather feed fish than worms as a staple, for sure! I really cant say it is even a staple because i feed so many different thing all the time. but fish is the go to if i have nothing else. i always keep fish in the freezer as fail safe.
Grif wouldnt you agree with the fact that the majority of Rat breeding facilities are problably the nastist places to be on earth? they have hundreds of breeder rats in bins that get the cheapest dog food to eat everyday for the rest of those rats misrable lives. they never get bathed or vet checked. if one dies, it gets thrown in the freezer for the next trip to fill pet store freezers. they have no names, they have no freedom, they are just a dollar amount attached to their size. Cricket farms are no different.
The only thing that is different though is worm farms. the dirt they live in has bacteria colonies in it that destroys most diseases rapidly which makes worms of any kind the safest critter for feeding. But worms are nothing more than mere skin and juices. there is no real liver or bones or measureable heart, or mineral filled brain to eat as a mammal has. so to solely feed worms as a staple would be deficient to you frog.

[Truffs1178]

I would much rather feed fish than worms as a staple, for sure!

Are you being serious or just messin?

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Grif wouldnt you agree with the fact that the majority of Rat breeding facilities are problably the nastist places to be on earth? they have hundreds of breeder rats in bins that get the cheapest dog food to eat everyday for the rest of those rats misrable lives. .

I don't know what rat breeders are like over in Michigan but not all are like that.

so to solely feed worms as a staple would be deficient to you frog.

Are you for real?

Matt you may be interested in this video. They care about their rats as he says in the video so they have space. Just 3 females and 1 male per tub.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yyTerL3nCHQ&feature=relmfu

In one of his other videos he also states that they clean their rats every five days.

[GrifTheGreat]

"Some" fish is the key word, but you just stepped out Grif and i am glad to see that. Fish are a fantastic feeder. I would much rather feed fish than worms as a staple, for sure! I really cant say it is even a staple because i feed so many different thing all the time. but fish is the go to if i have nothing else. i always keep fish in the freezer as fail safe.
Grif wouldnt you agree with the fact that the majority of Rat breeding facilities are problably the nastist places to be on earth? they have hundreds of breeder rats in bins that get the cheapest dog food to eat everyday for the rest of those rats misrable lives. they never get bathed or vet checked. if one dies, it gets thrown in the freezer for the next trip to fill pet store freezers. they have no names, they have no freedom, they are just a dollar amount attached to their size. Cricket farms are no different.
The only thing that is different though is worm farms. the dirt they live in has bacteria colonies in it that destroys most diseases rapidly which makes worms of any kind the safest critter for feeding. But worms are nothing more than mere skin and juices. there is no real liver or bones or measureable heart, or mineral filled brain to eat as a mammal has. so to solely feed worms as a staple would be deficient to you frog.

Fish from a clean source are fine, but only certain fish.

Earthworms are the most nutritious food for your frog. They contain a good amount of protein and are high in calcium. My GABF is fed. Night Crawlers as a staple and he hit 6.25" in 4 months. I think you don't fully know what you're talking about. He has never once had a fish.

Carlos is right though and I honestly feel that there is nothing more to add since you are obviously hard set of this endeavor.