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    I see your point and I'm not disagreeing with you but here is and argument against your statement. I realize your frog is healthy and I think it's up to the keeper.

    If you love your frog you should devote enough time and effort to at least change the water in its bowl. As well as having a fun time swimming around in his bowl he will also ALWAYS poop in his bowl so I don't need to scoop up poop from his main cage. And even though you say that it's better this way you also end up with more regular substate changes, more stress caused to the pixie by moving it around a lot, having to mix up the substrate a lot because of stagnant water deep below the substrate(I once tried your method exactly as you said to do it and if I were to dig down into the substrate with all that water at the bottom lying there undisturbed it would stink because of bacterial build up).

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    No flak from me is intended and if you came to a keeping method that works for you and frog, it's cool . Personally see your method as heavily dependent in daily handling and on frog pooping after feeding (some won't). Also, the wet substrate could harbor molds and bacteria.

    When it comes to Pixies as pets; prefer and recommend a large enough enclosure that can be set as either a 2/3 wet-1/3 dry or 3/4 wet-1/4 dry. The wet section having as large as possible canister filter (10X the rated volume is good start point) as can be afforded and an accessible platform made of flat stones or similar connecting to the dry area. This area will have shredded coco over a layer of clay balls (to keep coco dry above the water table) with a layer of landscape fabric between them).

    Targeted maintenance is weekly water changes of 25-50% (affected by frog size, water volume, and filter efficiency) to keep Nitrates below 20-25 ppm. Filter media is to be cleaned during WC with tank water. Dry area get's spot cleaning (normally unneeded) and monthly changes. Good luck !
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
    No flak from me is intended and if you came to a keeping method that works for you and frog, it's cool . Personally see your method as heavily dependent in daily handling and on frog pooping after feeding (some won't). Also, the wet substrate could harbor molds and bacteria.

    When it comes to Pixies as pets; prefer and recommend a large enough enclosure that can be set as either a 2/3 wet-1/3 dry or 3/4 wet-1/4 dry. The wet section having as large as possible canister filter (10X the rated volume is good start point) as can be afforded and an accessible platform made of flat stones or similar connecting to the dry area. This area will have shredded coco over a layer of clay balls (to keep coco dry above the water table) with a layer of landscape fabric between them).

    Targeted maintenance is weekly water changes of 25-50% (affected by frog size, water volume, and filter efficiency) to keep Nitrates below 20-25 ppm. Filter media is to be cleaned during WC with tank water. Dry area get's spot cleaning (normally unneeded) and monthly changes. Good luck !
    Carlos,

    I totally 101% agree with you but reading all those numbers, I'd rather just change my big water bowl on a daily basis lmao!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
    No flak from me is intended and if you came to a keeping method that works for you and frog, it's cool . Personally see your method as heavily dependent in daily handling and on frog pooping after feeding (some won't). Also, the wet substrate could harbor molds and bacteria.

    When it comes to Pixies as pets; prefer and recommend a large enough enclosure that can be set as either a 2/3 wet-1/3 dry or 3/4 wet-1/4 dry. The wet section having as large as possible canister filter (10X the rated volume is good start point) as can be afforded and an accessible platform made of flat stones or similar connecting to the dry area. This area will have shredded coco over a layer of clay balls (to keep coco dry above the water table) with a layer of landscape fabric between them).

    Targeted maintenance is weekly water changes of 25-50% (affected by frog size, water volume, and filter efficiency) to keep Nitrates below 20-25 ppm. Filter media is to be cleaned during WC with tank water. Dry area get's spot cleaning (normally unneeded) and monthly changes. Good luck !
    like i said in my posting, if you like to do daily maintenance this is not for you because i dont have to do anything daily as you suspect. i dont have to do any waterchanges as you do. mold and bacteria can grow just as fast on any moist warm substrate. so any substrate the frog climbs out of the water and walks across can and will get bacterias growing on it. i am glad you have a way that works great for you though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattfish View Post
    like i said in my posting, if you like to do daily maintenance this is not for you because i dont have to do anything daily as you suspect. i dont have to do any waterchanges as you do. mold and bacteria can grow just as fast on any moist warm substrate. so any substrate the frog climbs out of the water and walks across can and will get bacterias growing on it. i am glad you have a way that works great for you though!
    My bad for stating that your method requires handling frog daily. Also, see you don't do "daily" maintenance or any water changes; but do something else .
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    If you have ever watched the world famous David Attenborough you will have witnessed his documentary on pixie frog in Africa and you will have noticed how they are fully submerged in the water with only their eyes protruding so I think to make the animal feel natural it would be advisable to provide a water bowl and they have proven to have a tendency to swim regularly when given the option so I think they do like swimming otherwise why waste the time in doing so when they could be stalking prey

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    Mines in its bowl every night.

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    When she is not burried, my girl spends half time in water bowl and half time on substrate.
    She also often poops in water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truffs1178 View Post
    Mines in its bowl every night.
    Same here. At least half the day, everyday. Especially during night time after feeding.

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    Default Re: Water bowls for mature pixie frogs are optional!

    my substrate dont smell. its very moist not a puddle. this way the substrate evaporates and it gets a little dry so i add a large glass of water to the substrate every few days or when needed. i do a complete substrate change on my frog main cage maybe on average every 2 weeks to once a month. He is also over 6 inches now so i cut back his feeding to once every 3-4 days. it is easy and effective.

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