(Earth)worms escaping stomach...?

[GrifTheGreat]

Have seen them almost lose a worm that is half way in the gut when they lunge for another worm before finishing the first. Its nit actually crawling out of the stomach.

I've never had any of my frogs have loose or runny stool from Night Crawlers. NEVER! If everything in their body is functioning correctly stool should be normal and well shaped.

[Pyxiefan001]

UPDATE: Vet called earlier today and although there traces of worm larvae in the sample I brought in, doc said they weren't parasitic. But they strange stool of last night still concerns me. So what should I do?

[Mentat]

UPDATE: Vet called earlier today and although there traces of worm larvae in the sample I brought in, doc said they weren't parasitic. But they strange stool of last night still concerns me. So what should I do?

Hum... that does not make sense. Did veterinary stated what kind of worms? If in the frogs digestive system; how could they be non-parasitic and what are them larvae doing there ?

[Truffs1178]

When mine was a baby I tried giving him some Phoenix worms and he would poop them out still alive! Never had that with worms though.

[Pyxiefan001]

ANOTHER UPDATE: My other vet gave me plain Panacur, which only gets rid of parasites. If the problem is bacterial, I would've needed some Flagyl mixed with that, right? I sent these photos to my new vet (wasn't happy with my other one).

I called the new doc back and he tired to feed me some meaningless tripe about how "worms and parasites are everywhere. . .environmental thing." I stressed upon him the frog in question was born and raised in captivity, if that meant anything to him I dunno. I don't think he he even said what kind they were, though my other vet ruled nematodes.

In any case HE at least didn't seem to worry as long as Frog wasn't losing weight, which does not appear to be the case. But the stool of last night still worries me and makes me think something's still not right.

Does this mean I should keep her in the hospital cage for the time being STILL and keep disinfecting it every day. URGH! But so be it. . .

I NEED ANSWERS!

[Mentat]

All stop and re-group. Panacur does not get rid of all parasites but does work safely against intestinal worms. Your veterinary should weight your frog and give you a treatment based on it. Also, based on the actual kind of worms present, there will be a number of re-treatments to deal with the eggs hatching into future worm generations.

There are many kind of worms, and the reason for the fecal, is to identify the parasites (worms or protozoan) or if bacterias are the cause. Then the proper treatment can be applied. Would not mix any other treatments with Panacur unless under the care of a veterinary that is experienced and trained to work with amphibs. Hope Lija reads this thread and adds her comments too. Good luck !

[Pyxiefan001]

All stop and re-group. Panacur does not get rid of all parasites but does work safely against intestinal worms. Your veterinary should weight your frog and give you a treatment based on it. Also, based on the actual kind of worms present, there will be a number of re-treatments to deal with the eggs hatching into future worm generations.

There are many kind of worms, and the reason for the fecal, is to identify the parasites (worms or protozoan) or if bacterias are the cause. Then the proper treatment can be applied. Would not mix any other treatments with Panacur unless under the care of a veterinary that is experience and trained to work with amphibs. Hope Lija reads this thread and adds her comments too. Good luck !

That's just what I did with my other vet - weighed Frog with a digital gram scale, gave them hat number, and they concocted the Panacur. It was they who ruled that Frog had nematodes. Did treatment as instructed - give dose ONE that day, give SECOND dose two weeks later. Waited two weeks and then had fecal done at new vet. Told me there were still larvae there but they weren't parasitic. Puzzles me, too, especially seeing Frog's waste still looks odd. Still in hospital tank and disinfecting daily. Sent stool pics to new doctor. Don't know what to do know.

[GrifTheGreat]

A Panacur/Metronidazole(Flagyl) suspension should be used to treat this. It will rid the frog of various nematodes, intestinal bacteria, and protozoa.