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    Default Re: Answers to trouble in the enclosure.

    get rid of the water bowl! they are a pain in the behind to keep clean. just keep the substate moist. and feed him in a different tank. you should watch my youtube video " african bullfrog "pixie" eats bird and clean his cage " you will see mine eat, and what he does after that. it was my first video and it went a little long but it may help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattfish View Post
    get rid of the water bowl! they are a pain in the behind to keep clean. just keep the substate moist. and feed him in a different tank. you should watch my youtube video " african bullfrog "pixie" eats bird and clean his cage " you will see mine eat, and what he does after that. it was my first video and it went a little long but it may help you.
    Let me know,
    Matt

    JUST NO. AGBF spend most of their time in the water therefore it's very contradictory and overall a bad habitat if a water bowl is not present. You can research more information about their natural habitat and they spend the majority of their time in the water. These are not pacman frogs.

    Also the idea of removing him from his "home" to feed him in a different tank will create unnecessary stress for your frog and will sometimes reduce the appetite even further because the frog won't feel secure/safe plus all the handling moving it back and forth. The only people that should feed in a different container are the ones that keep moss in the tank and even then why would you have moss in the first place....

    And about that video.... I hope your frog does not get sick from eating that wild caught bird nor from the bleach you used to clean his terrarium.

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    dont be a hater!
    First of all, he NEVER sat in his water bowl, so i got rid of it. It must not cause to much stress putting him in another cage because within seconds he nails anything i give him. Third, he never sits in his waist this way. His tank stays great for a very long time. how is that wrong?
    I also use a very dilluted amount of bleach, with such high humidity mold can grow and i dont care what anyone says, the only thing that kills molds dead is bleach. the cage has to be sterilized. Like i said in the video, "if you can smell bleach in or on anything, thats not a good thing."

    Mr. Pickles is very healthy and happy! so i must be doing something right.
    Another thing, most of everything i have seen of these frogs in nature shows them in very shallow water or moist mud. thats what mine has.

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    Ugh!!! Alright you two. Matt and Nials don't get all heated over different housing arrangements.

    Yes they spend the majority of their time in water, BUT can live in moist Coconut Fiber without a water source. Is it ideal? No. It can be done though. A water source should be provided since it is their natural behavior to seek out water, but can be housed without one.

    As for the separate container feeding. Well it may cause some stress to a flighty GABF but most are calm and an be pretty bold. Many people do this as a way to prevent substrate ingestion when they cannot tang feed their frog. Its not anything to worry about unless the frog freaks out. Most will not.

    Now I will not recomend removing the water source since he does indeed use it frequently. You can try to feed in a separate container if you like just to try it out, but if he freaks out then don't do it anymore.


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    Ugh!!! Alright you two. Matt and Nials don't get all heated over different housing arrangements.

    Yes they spend the majority of their time in water, BUT can live in moist Coconut Fiber without a water source. Is it ideal? No. It can be done though. A water source should be provided since it is their natural behavior to seek out water, but can be housed without one.

    As for the separate container feeding. Well it may cause some stress to a flighty GABF but most are calm and an be pretty bold. Many people do this as a way to prevent substrate ingestion when they cannot tang feed their frog. Its not anything to worry about unless the frog freaks out. Most will not.

    Now I will not recomend removing the water source since he does indeed use it frequently. You can try to feed in a separate container if you like just to try it out, but if he freaks out then don't do it anymore.
    Don't worry I'm not going to remove the water bowl. I don't want to put him in a separate feeding container because it would be unnecessary stress for him since he already tong feeds now.

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    Thanks for the help everyone. I removed the heat mat and he seems happier. He was sat really upright waiting for food. Tomorrow ill give him something big. I have asked this before but never got a real answer. What would be the healthiest option as a once a month feeder, rats, mice, chicken chicks. The store sells other things like gerbils and quails also but they're more expensive. I alo know that none of these are better than insect live foods but they save money for one week every month by filling him up. And also all of yhese are pre killed because of some law over here which makes it illegal to feed live vertebrates to something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truffs1178 View Post
    Thanks for the help everyone. I removed the heat mat and he seems happier. He was sat really upright waiting for food. Tomorrow ill give him something big. I have asked this before but never got a real answer. What would be the healthiest option as a once a month feeder, rats, mice, chicken chicks. The store sells other things like gerbils and quails also but they're more expensive. I alo know that none of these are better than insect live foods but they save money for one week every month by filling him up. And also all of yhese are pre killed because of some law over here which makes it illegal to feed live vertebrates to something.
    Well for a monthly "treat" you will be fine with quail chicks, or a hopper(above a fuzzie, below a mouse). I would stay away from rats UNLESS its a rat pup, but from what I've read younger rats/mice are easier to digest than adults ones. It all depends on the frogs size as well. Rule of thumb is to feed something he can gulp down without effort OR within two "bites/gulps", so since your frog is 6-7" SVL I would feel comfortable feeding a rat pup, pre-killed mouse( again depending on the size of it) or a quail/chicken chick would also be fine but the feathers could be a little annoying to digest as well.

    Nevertheless, you should be fine with any of those. If I were you, I would just do either a hopper or rat pup and see how much that fills him up. Then depending on how it goes, I would move up to a pre-killed mouse to avoid damage to your frog's eyes/face. Remember though, only once a month because mice/rats are very fatty and high in protein so even though they might be beneficial as a once per month treat(yet not mandatory), its a liability in the long run.

    I don't know why every time I see your avatar pic, I think he is eating a rat lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattfish View Post
    get rid of the water bowl! they are a pain in the behind to keep clean. just keep the substate moist. and feed him in a different tank. you should watch my youtube video " african bullfrog "pixie" eats bird and clean his cage " you will see mine eat, and what he does after that. it was my first video and it went a little long but it may help you.
    Let me know,
    Matt
    WRONG!!! It's easy to clean. Each morning pick it up. Pour out old water, rinse and clean then put in new water. Not that hard. And Nial is right he spends all his time in there.

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