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    Hello,

    One of my whites tree frogs has an area that is a lighter color. It used to have this on the right side and it has since improved and has now appeared on the left side. Has anyone seen anything like this before? He is active, eats a lot, does not seem ill in any way. Thank you for any ideas.

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    Hello,
    This is an area on the the frog's skin that is quite compromised.
    Something is going on under there
    I would suggest you get him to a herp vet.

    In the meantime, you could apply Neosporin ( WITHOUT PAIN RELIEF.... as pain reliever will kill the frog).
    Use a q-tip to apply this - daily -while he is sleeping, if possible.

    A vet vet may suggest a different topical and/ or systemic medication for your frog.

    Your frog looks good , otherwise........healthy and chubby.

    Just wondering, is it possible this spot is the result of something that may have 'dripped' on him?
    Cleaner? , medicine ?

    If so, this would create a burn type of injury that needs a different medication, such as SSD.
    ("Silversulfadiazene is a topical antibiotic and antifungal that promotes healing while discouraging scarring")

    If you do not have a hep vet ....here is a link ( Dr Frye will need photos )

    http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-prepared.html

    Please keep us posted
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    Default Re: whites tree frog discolored spot

    BTW
    Before applying the antibiotic cream , warm it in a glass of 85F water
    this will do two things.
    first it will make it easier to apply and it bing warm wont shock the frog.

    think about putting something cold on your neck. BURRRR!



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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Hello,
    This is an area on the the frog's skin that is quite compromised.
    Something is going on under there
    I would suggest you get him to a herp vet.

    In the meantime, you could apply Neosporin ( WITHOUT PAIN RELIEF.... as pain reliever will kill the frog).
    Use a q-tip to apply this - daily -while he is sleeping, if possible.

    A vet vet may suggest a different topical and/ or systemic medication for your frog.

    Your frog looks good , otherwise........healthy and chubby.

    Just wondering, is it possible this spot is the result of something that may have 'dripped' on him?
    Cleaner? , medicine ?

    If so, this would create a burn type of injury that needs a different medication, such as SSD.
    ("Silversulfadiazene is a topical antibiotic and antifungal that promotes healing while discouraging scarring")

    If you do not have a hep vet ....here is a link ( Dr Frye will need photos )

    http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...-prepared.html

    Please keep us posted
    Lynn
    Thank you for your reply. It looks much worse tonight. I unfortunately do not have a herp vet in my area that I know of. The last exotic vet I went to stated that they knew herps but really clearly didnt. I will email Dr. Frye tonight, I just hope I have time. I may try to call around tomorrow as well to try to find a herp vet somewhere.

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    Sorry, poor baby
    Can you get the Neosporin started?
    It could really make a difference.

    I wonder if it's a bite?

    Lynn
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    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
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    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybyferns View Post
    Sorry, poor baby
    Can you get the Neosporin started?
    It could really make a difference.

    I wonder if it's a bite?

    Lynn
    I just applied neosporin. This frog is housed with another who does not have any skin issues. He just ate and I am now trying to figure out a container to keep him in separated from the other guy until we can get him treated. I really appreciate your help I am very worried about him.

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    Oh...It's no trouble at all.
    Get the neo on in the middle of the night, again, if possible.
    And then again tomorrow AM. You just need a dab.

    Feed him well.

    It's good that you are getting him into a quarantine tank You will be able to keep a closer eye on him.
    Plus, there are so many possibilities as to what this could be. It's best for the other frog as well

    Dampened paper towels ( de-chorinated H20) do all you can to maintain the temp and humidity he is accustomed to. Caver 3 sides of the tank - it will help him feel safer

    Dr Frye will help.
    He will get back to you tomorrow.

    I , just, hate when they're sick.
    Lynn
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    Dendrobates tinctorius "Green Sipaliwini"
    Dendrobates tinctorius “Powder Blue"
    Dendrobates tinctorius "French Guiana Dwarf Cobalt"

    Phyllobates terribilis “Mint”
    Phyllobates terribilis "Orange"
    Phyllobates bicolor "Uraba"

    Oophaga pumilio "Black Jeans"
    Oophaga pumilio "Isla Popa"
    Oophaga pumilio "Bastimentos"
    Oophaga pumilio “Mimbitimbi”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Colubre"
    Oophaga pumilio "Red Frog Beach”
    Oophaga pumilio "Rio Branco"
    Oophaga pumilio “Valle del Rey”
    Oophaga pumilio "BriBri"
    Oophaga pumilio "El Dorado"
    Oophaga pumilio "Cristobal"
    Oophaga pumilio "Rambala"

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    Oophaga sylvatica "Pata Blanca"
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    Oophaga lehmanni "Red"
    Oophaga histrionica "Tado"

    Ranitomeya variabilis "Southern"
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    Congratulations! This is great to hear .
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    Just wanted to keep updating in case anyone else goes through a similar situation. So last Friday was McFly's 21st and last day of medication. I stopped it as he looked 100% better and the meds were prescribed for 14-21 days. Well within 2 days his infection and discolored skin started coming right back. I contacted Dr. Frye and he suggested that further testing might be required. I did start the meds again just to keep the infection at bay while I figured out what to do. Today I went to my regular vet, who does not see exotic pets and she agreed to give me a swab so that I can swab McFly after stopping the meds for a few days and she will send it out for culture and sensitivity testing. This test will allow us to learn what type of infection it is and what medication should cure it. Of course my friends and family think I am crazy to keep spending money on my poor frog, but if it is something that can be healed, it is worth it to me. Here is how he is looking now. I know its poor quality.

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    Hopefully you'll get the results soon. I've found that often their infections take about 6 weeks to completely rid if. Not always the case though. It also depends on the infection bacteria, fungus, parasite, etc., and the dose and medication needed.

    Good luck! Please keep us posted!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heatheranne View Post
    Hopefully you'll get the results soon. I've found that often their infections take about 6 weeks to completely rid if. Not always the case though. It also depends on the infection bacteria, fungus, parasite, etc., and the dose and medication needed.

    Good luck! Please keep us posted!
    Thank You. Yes Dr. Frye did suggest that as he responded to the meds he may just need longer treatment, but of course he also said that doing the culture and sensitivity testing would be the best option. As soon as I get the swab I will re-start the medications until we get results and determine whether he needs to be treated with something else, or just the same meds for a longer period of time. The good news is that he is eating and very active, so he does not seem to be effected much by the skin issues so far.

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    Hello everyone,

    I wanted to give an update on McFly. He is doing great! I did give him a 30 day treatment with the meds and he is now doing fine. He might be a little overweight as he is a pig and I wanted him healthy during his recovery. But thanks to Dr. Frye and this forum he is great.
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    Great job!!!! It's so nice to hear success stories. Welcome to the healing side of our world .
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    It's a great feeling seeing one turn around to the healthy side, and he looks amazing. Well done.
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