Update on Zuma

[Lija]

Yep, I also learned that the hard way, she lunged onto a plant I was moving across the top off the 40 cm terrarium. They are really lazy jumpers but seem to find extreme jumping motivation when they see food.

or they think they see food lol or they know it is not a food but because they're mean stinkers they lunge at it anyway lol
my 6"+ girl can jump out something 12" tall if she wants to or across 18"x18" tank , so water changes have to be done carefully in her tank lol
my boy however is just plain lazy, i don't think he will ever jump for anything.
that was his first and the last run for fingers lol

[dubbean]

Its funny. The first thing I though when Zuma bit me was, "where is my camera?" Of course, it was across the room so I didn't get a picture. I am seriously thinking Zuma might be a female. I still don't see any nuptial pads (but will look closer on Thursday when I do a substrate change), she has a big head (I think I read somewhere females have bigger heads), and eats everything in sight.

I guess time will tell though. I'm just happy he (or she) is eating so well.

[Hypnotic]

Yeah, I know what you mean, most males I see seem to have a pointier head.

[Lija]

yeah, i think you have a female too, but head shape and its size are very unreliable in terms of sexing but at 3" nuptial pads should be there, if not, you can be 99% sure you have a female

P.S. i have my camera at all the times in my reptile room lol, but the problem is the battery is dead sometimes and always when something interesting or funny happens

[Lija]

both of my guys at about 3", first pic female, the second one male, he had that hanging throat at about 2.5" and has been using it as a pillow ever since lol

but it doesn't mean your should be the same, they're all different.

[dubbean]

They are both cute and fat

[dubbean]

I did a full terrarium cleaning today and got a good look at Zuma's front feet. I see no evidence of nuptial pads. I'm going to start referring to Zuma as a girl unless I find out later she isn't. She is still 3" long and almost 3" wide. How big to female ornatas get? She seems really happy in her 5.5 gallon terrarium, Is now about time to move her into a 10 gallon or can she stay in the 5.5? How big is too big of a frog for the 5.5? I just don't want her to stop eating or something in a new terrarium.

Also, I got her some dubia roaches yesterday but, so far, she isn't interested in them and neither is my leopard gecko. I'm going to keep trying. Someone has to eat the roaches .

[Lija]

They are both cute and fat

now they are just fat lol
females ornates can get 6"+ you should start looking for 18x18 footprint tank. i have mine in 18x18x12, and not really liking it, i will probably switch her and my male who is in 18x18x18. when she gets mad - every time i do anything to her tank, like substrate changes or she is hungry or need to poop or just phase of the moon lol in 12 height she can reach top screen if she wants to, i don't think at this point she is in any danger of burning herself on a heat lamp, it is in the middle of the top and she goes all over the glass, but i would rather get some distance.