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    I cant imagine what else could be wrong...my father said maybe hes inbreed but i dont know
    I do care for him alot i put alot of money into him and hes to young and sweet to be in so much pain i feel horrible for him hes all thats on my mind right now

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    If I can add some personal advice about the money, I'm assuming your a minor? Sorry if I'm incorrected, but have you talked to your parents about this? Personally, I would send one of my parents over to the doctor, but have the vet write down whatever is wrong with little Bowser and the exact costs of the treatment, and present the doctor with the bill.
    While others might think this is confrontational, this is what I would do. If your of legal age, you can do this yourself but if your a minor, I really advise an adult to atleast escort you inside with him, so you have someone to cover your back and he can't talk his way out.
    Whatever is wrong with Bowser, he is responsible for, if he likes it or not. And lets be honest, it's worth a try to recuperate the vet bill.
    Also, seeing as how he is a doctor, he might respect the opinion of the vet and realise this is the right thing to do.
    I also advice you to let your dad read this entire topic you created, I'm sure as an adult, he will understand the seriousness of the illness little Bowser has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowser View Post
    I cant imagine what else could be wrong...my father said maybe hes inbreed but i dont know
    I do care for him alot i put alot of money into him and hes to young and sweet to be in so much pain i feel horrible for him hes all thats on my mind right now
    I'm sure it is not genetic, it is either MBD or neuro or combination of both, only vet can confirm this possibly after doing xrays.
    i can tell you this, i very much respect the way you care about a frog, not many people would do what you're already doing for him, especially not younger people. I would be very proud mom if my kids would try to save a live being as much as you do.
    i don't think previous owner cared at all, doctor or not and i don't think calling and asking if he knew will help at all, technically you're frog owners now, thus you're responsible for all expenses occurring.

    I'm so sorry he is so sick and hope it can be fixed. please keep us posted. good luck!
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    Really sorry to do a thread hijack but Lija, "Lija has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."
    and I just noticed I've been calling you Ilja for the past few days.

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    Hi there.

    I have been caring for three frogs that also had severe MBD. They weren't eating, were very lethargic and were having seizures.
    One died, but I managed to save the other two.

    Here's what I did.

    EVERY DAY, I gave the frogs (separately of course) a Pedialyte 1:10 soak- that is one part Pedialyte to ten parts de-chlorinated water. Make it blood temperature water so they don't get too cold. Let them soak for 20 minutes.

    EVERY DAY, I gave the frogs a soak of LIQUID CALCIUM. Flukers makes it, it comes in a bottle with a dripper. The packaging is a blue box with Liquid Calcium written on it. The correct dosage for my frogs was one drop per 30mls of de-chlorinated blood temp water. I suspect that since your frog is larger, you should up the dose to perhaps 2 or 3 drops per 30mls. Leave the frog to soak for 20 mins. This will increase blood calcium levels and start you back on the right track. The liquid calcium does not have D3 added, so if you can expose the frog to some UVB light to aid absorption of the calcium that would be ideal.

    EVERY 2 DAYS, I gave the frog a Repta-Boost soak. They were too small to successfully force-feed. Add one scoop of Repta-Boost to 120mls blood temp de-chlorinated water . If you can force feed it, check out this video: Feeding Twigs - YouTube courtesy of Heather Add a little (small amount is crucial-- too much calcium at one time may cause bad complications) amount of calcium to the Repta-Boost mix. Be gentle.

    Good luck. If this is MBD, there is still a possibility you can save him. I wasn't able to take my frogs to a vet, so this is what I did. You cannot substitute the liquid calcium for calcium powder mixed with water. The calcium powder is not water soluble, so the frog won't be able to absorb it easily.
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    This is not MBD. Explain the frog's motor functions. How does the frog move around? This is an Ornate so posturing is normally in a very low to the ground stance like a pancake.

    Having one eye closed is not entirely a sign of pain. Pain is normally vocalized.


    A vet trip is best, but i want some more information.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotic View Post
    Really sorry to do a thread hijack but Lija, "Lija has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."
    and I just noticed I've been calling you Ilja for the past few days.
    sorry all good now
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