This is fantastic information. I am just getting started with my frogs. I have two pacmans in 10 gallons with live plants and they are doing great so far. I want to branch out to tree frogs eventually; Amazon milk frogs especially.
my question is: what do they need as far as habitat? I realize that your beautiful uprights that you made are specific for darts. I'm still brainstorming and increasing my knowledge base. Any info is much appreciated.
Stupid question: What is LECA?
LECA is Lightweight Expanded Clay Aggregate. It is used as a drainage layer in some vivariums so the substrate does not get too wet. (You can get mold and bacteria if you have soggy substrate.)
Hey John
I really like the 10 gallon vertical tank you built! i just dont know where to get the 10 gallon
conversion kit, and ive been wondering if tree frogs would be fine in a tank like this?
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The way that John has it set up would not be appropriate for tree frogs. There is not enough air circulation for what a tree frog needs.
To rectify this in mine I went in got some screen material and the metal frame for a screen and put a little 2 inch vent at the top and the bottom of the door this way it will pull air in the bottom and pushes it out the top. I did this with a 29 gallon aquarium.
On a side note if you do something like this don't set a waterfall by the door or it will always be filthy from water splashing and the screen will catch the mineral deposits. The mineral deposits make it look horrible.
I hope my description made sense. I will see if I can find a picture and post it.
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So here's the picture of the front of it and how I setup the venting. Don't mind the bare tank, I just had to go in and replant some stuff. But hopefully this will give you the idea of what I'm talking about.
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why you must wait one or two months to add frogs after planting?
You dont have to. I never have but most do it so that the plants can adjust and get their roots stable before frogs are trampling on them. Also gives you time to observe plants and see if you need to move or adjust them without disturbing the frogs
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Beautiful job ! I just got a 40 Viv that I have not started yet as Im looking for ideas, yours is goregous, I enjoyed reading this.
This is so cool, but I have a couple questions.
1. Can you only keep dart frogs in something like this, or are there other types of frogs suitable for this?
2. Is there a space for water at the bottom?
Thanks
One thing I have noticed in dart frog enclosures especially during the winter months
is the high amount of condensation on the inside of the glass.
I wonder if I use 1/4 plate glass cut to the same size as the outer dimensions of the
enclosure and silicone some screen ribbing around the edge of the glass (after rounding the edges of the glass with sandpaper.)
and then using silicone to adhere the glass and ribbing to the viv glass to make a air insulated sandwich.
Will this help keep the condensation down. and also help keep the internal temperature up.
I might also put a few bits of silica gel inside the two pieces of glass to absorb any moisture.
What to yall think?
You get the condensation if the vents are closed or no vents at all. With the vents left open you will not get the condensation.I tape plastic over the vents for the breeding season to increase the humidity. Here are two of my 20gallon verts. I also found the vents to large for my liking. The one on the left is a kit i made with a small vent and the one on the right was purchased from junglebox.
The 3 originally pictured terrariums are still going strong, although I did clean out the left hand one 2 years ago in order to set up my Southern Variabilis (there's a thread somewhere else on the forum about this). I've actually never had to strip them down (not yet anyhow). I use the left one for a group of Southern variabilis, the central one is now for growing out thumbnails (I have various Ranitomeya in it growing out at the same time) and the right hand one is still Varadero imitators. That's the only kind of imitator I still keep.
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