yeah, i had the tank up and running and, coming up to the show i was going to, i had a look at frogs etc and i liked these guys and wish i'd built them a viv etc, well, drove 300miles to the gathering and had a ponder round, didnt mind there wernt milkies there, wasnt in a rush to get them really, saw some Leucs but the more speckled one's, gorgeous. Then one vendor turned up and produced these little beauties, however, just the two, got them anyway. Had a Chat with a few people their prior to buying them and it's a bunch of guys i know from uk site and they knew my tank, whilst not perfect, would with a hide or two extra, be fine for leucs as they are rather bold and love a good climb. loving having the guys, but i failed on some basics, always build the tank for the frog you want etc, but i think they love it in there especially the water at the front. also, they are from 2 different bloodlines