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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Charles Bruckner View Post
    I wouldn't do that because that will also get rid of most of the nutriments that the frog can use also.
    Now placing them in water to rinse off external dirt is ok.
    and dusting with a calcium+D3 is a good thing to do also.
    Interesting. Thank you! Would the tetra-mushy-food be a good enough source of calcium/D3 on it's own, I wonder?
    Not that I plan on adding anything to it or taking dusted bugs from his diet. I'm just curious, and think it would be good to know.

    I'm having lots of fun with this project.

    Edit: I just want to add that I think his exploded iris looks pretty, gold flakes and squiggles everywhere.

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    (5 weeks, 1 day in) Clyde Frog pooped out a bunch of coco fiber, so I took it away. I'm a little frustrated to know that's what he's been eating. I wonder if maybe he's been eating the bits that float in the water. I'm going to experiment with some fish food...



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    don't worry.Bull frogs usually eat a lot of substrate when they're hunting food so be glad you're using Coco fiber instead of gravel.

    And the reason why you're seeing only Coco fiber in his bm. is because he can't digest it.
    Bullfrogs don't eat food that doesn't move they hunt live food moving so Crickets or dubia roaches or other feeders such as that.



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    don't worry.Bull frogs usually eat a lot of substrate when they're hunting food so be glad you're using Coco fiber instead of gravel.

    And the reason why you're seeing only Coco fiber in his bm. is because he can't digest it.
    Bullfrogs don't eat food that doesn't move they hunt live food moving so Crickets or dubia roaches or other feeders such as that.

    Thanks LCB, are Bull Frogs and Green Frogs the same thing..?

    I'm afraid to say that I think the reason I'm seeing coco fiber in his BMs is because that's all he's been eating. He's been force fed 3 times in 5 weeks, even though I read after the first time that they don't eat during mating season, he's very thin and I can't have him dying on me...

    So here I thought that he was eating his shed or something, because he started passing regular bowel movements. This explains why the first one he passed was green though, because at the time he had moss.

    I don't understand why he's eating dirt and moss and not bugs, but I imagine that if his natural life cycle goes like this: tadpole eats algae, young frog aquatic hunting, grown frog land hunting, then maybe he's young and eating dirt out of his pool because that's all he ever did before that car accident and I interrupted his natural development. That's why I'm curious to know if he'll eat fish food.

    Unrelated, but he's getting a bigger tank this week with gravel substrate and water plants c:

    I haven't given him crickets since the first week because they annoy him. He freaks out and scratches his eyes. I think they bullied him. Someone said if I put food in there with the frog the crickets would bite that, and not him, but it didn't seem to work and he's not interested in eating them at this time so I stopped buying them. As for Dubai roaches, with my luck I'd only lose them all in the house and infest the entire building with illegal bugs.

    All I can really do right now is continue with the honey baths, feed him if I think he'll waste away, and hope that when fall sets in he'll take an interest in eating something other than dirt, and if he eats the fish food? Great! Then I'll have a.... unique frog.

    Thank you for replying, it's really reassuring to get a "Don't worry."

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    Oh, and I don't usually leave bugs in with him all the time, but I tried it because he wouldn't eat while I was watching.

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    Unrelated, but he's getting a bigger tank this week with gravel substrate and water plants c:
    PLEASE don't use gravel D: The reason most frog-keepers use coco-fiber is because if it's ingested, it can be passed easily enough.
    If he's been eating the substrate, putting in gravel instead is a recipe for disaster. He'll find it very difficult to pass any gravel pieces he ingests, and may end up dying of impaction. Stick with the coco-fiber, it's tried and true, and above all, safe.

    As for the species not eating during breeding season, where did you get that information? Most frogs will still continue to eat, albeit with decreased appetites.

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    If you want to use gravel in the water use large gravel that can not fit in it's mouth.
    and if you must use smaller gravel silicone it to a plexi glass sheet.
    I know coco fiber and water doesn't look good and will clog most filters.



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    People in Newfoundland speak... differently. We are like the Ireland of Canada. Maybe that's why when I say gravel people think the small colorful pet store rocks and I think of the stones in my driveway?

    I can assure you all that I'm not about to replace a substrate he's capable of eating with a more dangerous to ingest substrate that he would also be capable of eating.

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    PLEASE don't use gravel D: The reason most frog-keepers use coco-fiber is because if it's ingested, it can be passed easily enough.
    If he's been eating the substrate, putting in gravel instead is a recipe for disaster. He'll find it very difficult to pass any gravel pieces he ingests, and may end up dying of impaction. Stick with the coco-fiber, it's tried and true, and above all, safe.

    As for the species not eating during breeding season, where did you get that information? Most frogs will still continue to eat, albeit with decreased appetites.
    Derp.

    By gravel I mean stones, which is also gravel.

    As for the image, it has the name of the website right on it.

    Hope that helps.

    & PS Please keep in mind that they are referring to wild frogs and not pet store frogs.
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