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    1. Size of enclosure? 10 gal

    2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences? 1

    3. Humidity? 73-80%

    4. Temperature? 82-83F daytime; 78F nighttime

    5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish? Dechlorinated water for everything.

    6. Materials used for substrate? Eco earth

    7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials. - How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv? Water bowl, plastic plant, tree log, covered on all sides and a small stripe in the bottom front of the tank.

    8. Main food source? Night crawlers

    9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often?) Ca+D3 x3/ Mul-vit x1 per week.

    10. Lighting? 50 watt tight beam bulb with dimming lamp.

    11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure? UTH on side and lamp.

    12. When is the last time he/she ate? Last night, but about 45% less compared to the last two weeks.

    13. Have you found poop lately? I always find small brown clunks in the water, seems to be small poops compared to the big weekly ones from the ornate. They both eat the same thing.

    14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)

    15. How old is the frog? I would say around 1 month and a half or less. I got him when he was a little over an inch SVL.

    16. How long have you owned him/her? 2 weeks

    17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred? CB

    18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats? So far I have only fed Canadian night crawlers.

    19. How often the frog is handled? Never.

    20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area? No traffic at all.

    21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc) Water changes are done on a daily basis every night after feeding. Have not done a monthly cleaning yet.

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    18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats? So far I have only fed Canadian night crawlers.

    I believe the reason is this here.

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    Even giving some crickets will help diversify it's diet. Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.

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    I don't think its the lack of diversity because that is what the Vitamins are for.

    What kind of dechlorinated water are you using? Tap, spring, distilled, R/O, or purified?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    I don't think its the lack of diversity because that is what the Vitamins are for.

    What kind of dechlorinated water are you using? Tap, spring, distilled, R/O, or purified?
    I'm treating tap water with repti safe.

    What about the playing dead part that SCF mentioned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCF View Post
    18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats? So far I have only fed Canadian night crawlers.

    I believe the reason is this here.

    You really think so? How could that cause it the weird position I found him in? Well I can get waxworms, hornworms, crickets and some florida keys broad head roach or something like that. I guess I could buy a pack of waxworms and use them as treats....but how often do you feed treats? Once per day along with the nightcrawlers?

    I always try to keep humidity at 80% but what is a good range? I think 60-80% is good right?

    I just noticed him sitting there with his eyes kinda closed, like if he was squinting but when I get closer to take a look he opens them wide. Is this him/her trying to sleep or there is something wrong?

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    I really do think so. It's not getting enough of diverse nutrition that is vital to it's health. For example, I've had my newest baby a week longer than you, I've fed it earthworms, dubia, a pinky, morio worms, crickets, hornworms, and a few silks.

    You do not need to keep at it 80% humidity, lower is ok as well.

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    The vitamins in no way can replicate diverse insect nutrition, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCF View Post
    The vitamins in no way can replicate diverse insect nutrition, imo.
    True, but that is not the reason for the frog to act this way. It is most likely environmental or neurological. Spasms and paralysis are associated with toxig out as well as frantic behavior.


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    Could it be he just did this one odd thing, and he's not toxing out? The rest of his behavior doesn't seem that unusual.

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    Mine doesn't play dead, but they will lay motionless for long periods of time with arms and legs slayed while sleeping in their water.


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    Dang...I just hope my baby is okay. He has been doing awesome all this time, I really don't know what could have caused this. I doubt it was changing the water bowl, I noticed the tank has this silicone inside that holds together the pieces of glass on every edge...I don't think the frog rubbing/touching this silicone when he buries could be causing this right?

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