WOW...Something is weird.

[NialR35]

I thought it could be toxing out as well....I changed his water last night after feeding so he can have fresh clean water for the night since he spends the majority of the night in there. I did notice the water a little dirty this morning but I did not pay much attention to it since I change the water EVERY night no matter what. I scald his dish with HOT tap water, and rinse it with treated water prior to putting it back.

The substrate is not really wet, just moist. There are no puddles or white mold anywhere. It does look dryer in some parts because that's where the lamp hits. I have been feeding night crawlers for the past two weeks to go easy on him since I just got him. Eating has been great until last night when I noticed him not as aggressive as other days and ate only around half of what he normally would.

One thing I did do was give him a bigger water bowl, its only the medium sized zoo med one. I washed it and treated it prior to using it and kept the water level to under his chin.

[SCF]

Simple question, but do you rinse off the earthworms before you feed? How are you storing them? Does their substrate smell "off" in any way? You can also mix the eco earth around into the dry stuff and help get rid of the overly wet.

[NialR35]

Simple question, but do you rinse off the earthworms before you feed? How are you storing them? Does their substrate smell "off" in any way? You can also mix the eco earth around into the dry stuff and help get rid of the overly wet.

Yea, I rinse the night crawlers with treated water prior to cutting. I keep them refrigerated too. Their substrate does not smell at all and the worms look healthy, nice and round without sores or bumps.

[NialR35]

1. Size of enclosure? 10 gal

2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences? 1

3. Humidity? 73-80%

4. Temperature? 82-83F daytime; 78F nighttime

5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish? Dechlorinated water for everything.

6. Materials used for substrate? Eco earth

7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials. - How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv? Water bowl, plastic plant, tree log, covered on all sides and a small stripe in the bottom front of the tank.

8. Main food source? Night crawlers

9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often?) Ca+D3 x3/ Mul-vit x1 per week.

10. Lighting? 50 watt tight beam bulb with dimming lamp.

11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure? UTH on side and lamp.

12. When is the last time he/she ate? Last night, but about 45% less compared to the last two weeks.

13. Have you found poop lately? I always find small brown clunks in the water, seems to be small poops compared to the big weekly ones from the ornate. They both eat the same thing.

14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)

15. How old is the frog? I would say around 1 month and a half or less. I got him when he was a little over an inch SVL.

16. How long have you owned him/her? 2 weeks

17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred? CB

18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats? So far I have only fed Canadian night crawlers.

19. How often the frog is handled? Never.

20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area? No traffic at all.

21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc) Water changes are done on a daily basis every night after feeding. Have not done a monthly cleaning yet.

[SCF]

18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats? So far I have only fed Canadian night crawlers.

I believe the reason is this here.

[SCF]

Even giving some crickets will help diversify it's diet. Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.

[GrifTheGreat]

I don't think its the lack of diversity because that is what the Vitamins are for.

What kind of dechlorinated water are you using? Tap, spring, distilled, R/O, or purified?

[NialR35]

I don't think its the lack of diversity because that is what the Vitamins are for.

What kind of dechlorinated water are you using? Tap, spring, distilled, R/O, or purified?

I'm treating tap water with repti safe.

What about the playing dead part that SCF mentioned?

[NialR35]

18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats? So far I have only fed Canadian night crawlers.

I believe the reason is this here.

You really think so? How could that cause it the weird position I found him in? Well I can get waxworms, hornworms, crickets and some florida keys broad head roach or something like that. I guess I could buy a pack of waxworms and use them as treats....but how often do you feed treats? Once per day along with the nightcrawlers?

I always try to keep humidity at 80% but what is a good range? I think 60-80% is good right?

I just noticed him sitting there with his eyes kinda closed, like if he was squinting but when I get closer to take a look he opens them wide. Is this him/her trying to sleep or there is something wrong?

[SCF]

I really do think so. It's not getting enough of diverse nutrition that is vital to it's health. For example, I've had my newest baby a week longer than you, I've fed it earthworms, dubia, a pinky, morio worms, crickets, hornworms, and a few silks.

You do not need to keep at it 80% humidity, lower is ok as well.

[SCF]

The vitamins in no way can replicate diverse insect nutrition, imo.

[GrifTheGreat]

The vitamins in no way can replicate diverse insect nutrition, imo.

True, but that is not the reason for the frog to act this way. It is most likely environmental or neurological. Spasms and paralysis are associated with toxig out as well as frantic behavior.

[GrifTheGreat]

Mine doesn't play dead, but they will lay motionless for long periods of time with arms and legs slayed while sleeping in their water.