Does anyone give feeder frogs to Pacmans?

[DVirginiana]

Probably the same deal as with lizards... They don't generally sell green and brown anoles as 'feeders', but when you see someone with fifty brown anoles for $1.50 each and a deal if you buy in bulk, you know they're selling them to people who have lizard-eating snakes.

[Lija]

Probably the same deal as with lizards... They don't generally sell green and brown anoles as 'feeders', but when you see someone with fifty brown anoles for $1.50 each and a deal if you buy in bulk, you know they're selling them to people who have lizard-eating snakes.

anoles and lizard eating snakes are different story, i'm be doing the same when needed, lizards are being used for some picky kingsnake babies, with mountain kings being probably the most obnoxious. so you try pinkies for just hatched babies, but most are refusing, then you give them lizards to start them eating, eventually moving to lizard scented pinkies and then to nonscented pinkies and only when they are well established on nonscented f/t food you can sell them. that is general rule for snake breeders, you can get not established baby, but none of respectable breeders will sell such a baby to non pros with herps.

[poison]

I believe by "lizard eating snakes" he meant snakes like vine snakes or other species that in my experience will ONLY eat lizards. Most of these species are WC as is. So they more then likely already cary parasites.

[DVirginiana]

anoles and lizard eating snakes are different story, i'm be doing the same when needed, lizards are being used for some picky kingsnake babies, with mountain kings being probably the most obnoxious. so you try pinkies for just hatched babies, but most are refusing, then you give them lizards to start them eating, eventually moving to lizard scented pinkies and then to nonscented pinkies and only when they are well established on nonscented f/t food you can sell them. that is general rule for snake breeders, you can get not established baby, but none of respectable breeders will sell such a baby to non pros with herps.

A secret to getting baby garters to eat is tadpoles. It's often the difference between a FTT baby and a baby that lives. Of course, all these have to be WC since you can't buy pinhead-sized tads at the petstore...

I didn't mean to compare the lizard-eating snakes (or snake-eating snakes for that matter!) to the feeder frog issue here. Just that you can usually tell when someone has collected a bunch of animals to sell as feeders without labeling them as such, whether they're frogs/toads, lizards, or even small snakes. I realize some snakes will only eat those things and take a good bit of work to get on an easier food source, and would probably not survive without eating those prey items for awhile.