Dusting/feces question about my pac.

[GrifTheGreat]

So after last night's dusting with night crawlers, he looks like Scarface's Tony Montana. Is it okay for some Ca powder to stay around his mouth or I should rinse it? I don't think he likes his vitamins

When it comes to their supplements they almost always don't like them, but they need them. Just like a child.

[NialR35]

Colleen/Jerrod,

How often should I wait before doing a honey bath? I have not found any feces in the last five days(going to six).

[NialR35]

Okay, finally found a big surprise this morning. Took about a week!

So I have started feeding night crawlers for the past 5 days or so. I'm currently using tongs, any tips useful for tong training or it's just a matter of holding the food with them and get the frog used to it?

Also, Sometimes he eats 4 pieces, sometimes 3 sometimes 5. Is this normal? Tonight, he seemed hungry, as soon as he saw one piece of worm he launched like a torpedo, and flipped over hahahhaha; but then only ate 3 pieces with the last one being kinda forced because I annoyed him until he ate it( sat for about 20-25 mins there). I'm not sure if it's maybe because he is not used to the tongs yet, I just want to make sure I'm tong feeding the right way so it does not interrupt his eating pattern.

[Lija]

sounds great! but then it is ornate lol to be expected and you don't need to tong train as it eating from them already.

try to hold tongs the way it doesn't bite tongs, kinda on a angle with tips away from his mouth, it is in theory, but i very rarely manage to do that with my girl lol usually it is flight for the food across the tank the second the doors are open if she is hungry.

[NialR35]

Hahaha! that ninja flip was priceless. I try to hold them sideways with the tips away from his mouth and do the zombie dance. Sometimes he catches faster than others, sometimes he misses. But is it normal they eat different amounts per day?\

Also for future reference, when I feed a pinky in the future, do you normally feed the next day or wait a couple days?

[Lija]

when they're the size that can have pinky after feeding it i usually try wait for 5-6-7 days and always mouse is been followed up with nightcrawlers for at least 2-3 feedings. having said that i never actually buy a mouse to feed to a frogs, if they happen to get it, it is usually if i have defrosted leftovers after feeding my snakes, say once Ruby got 2 hoppers per feeding, but then she got dieting to do lol

[GrifTheGreat]

A pinky doesn't take as long to digest as a fuzzy or hopper mouse. Pinky mice are not developed and don't have hard bones. Their muscle tissues are weak as well and not quite as dense so you don't have to wait as long before offering food again with a pinky mouse.

I'd say 2 days is long enough if climate is spot on. Night Crawlers act as a stool softener so the frog will have little to no risk of impaction from feeding after a 2 day wait. Now if it were a fuzzy or hopper(mice for adult frogs) you would wait like Lija recommended. 2.5" SVL is the correct length your frog should be before offering a pinky mouse.

[NialR35]

Thank you guys! Thank you for everything that you do for us fellow members. Sometimes you can google these questions but the information is very contradictory and biased but I feel safe obtaining it from you guys

[NialR35]

As I was feeding Ca dusted night crawlers, my ornate only took the first piece and refused to eat more. The pieces are a little larger than the distance between his eyes.

So could it be possible that he got full with one piece or he just hates the Ca? Is
it okay to force feed when your frog doesnt like its vitamins?

I think I will just Ca Mondays and Wednesdays and do the multivitamins on Fridays .Will this be enough or calcium must be 3x for babies?

[Louis Charles Bruckner]

I would try Dusted crickets and or Dubia roaches. Since the calcium might be making the worm
excrete mucus more than usual making it not as appetizing to the frog.

I never dust my night crawlers since my supplements have some sodium and other mineral salts that
don't react well with worms. I have even tried to dissolve the supplements in Distilled water and tried injecting
it into the worms to not get the external reaction but that didn't do well either.

And earth worms are a good source of calcium without any supplements.

I dust and gut-load my crickets and Dubia roaches.