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    no, you need to cycle ADA Aquasoil prior to using it in a vivarium due to the amount of ammonia it releases.

    Eco-earth is nothing more than ground up and processed coconut fibers. It in no way will just decompose feces. Bacteria needs to build up in a vivarium in order for that to happen. And it's not like it will magically disappear overnight. That is why we recommend microfauna (isopods and springtails) that actually feed on feces and decaying plant matter.
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    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    no, you need to cycle ADA Aquasoil prior to using it in a vivarium due to the amount of ammonia it releases.

    Eco-earth is nothing more than ground up and processed coconut fibers. It in no way will just decompose feces. Bacteria needs to build up in a vivarium in order for that to happen. And it's not like it will magically disappear overnight. That is why we recommend microfauna (isopods and springtails) that actually feed on feces and decaying plant matter.
    Bill: So can you give me a procedure for cycling the ADA soil....And, if the isopods and springtails handle the solid waste, what about the urine?.....While this seems very interesting, I have NO idea about this, so if you can be a litlte detailed, I'd appreciate it.

    From reading this thread, the bioactive soil seems to be THE way to go, more natural, less maintenance once it's setup....If that's true, why aren't more pacman and african bullfrog keepers using it?......Well, maybe they are, I just haven't been paying attention, but from my readings, the Eco earth coco fiber seems to be the standard substrate.

    Thanks for you help
    Lloyd
    Last edited by never quit; July 15th, 2013 at 01:47 PM. Reason: add second paragraph.....another question

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    Lloyd, i can link you to a site that has discussed using Aquasoil heavily, but why go through all of that when there are so many other substrates that are safer? remember, ADA Aquasoil is designed to be used in planted aquariums,not necessarily vivariums. the cycling process is essentially that of cycling a new aquarium, but could take up to six weeks before it's ready for use.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
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    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    Lloyd, i can link you to a site that has discussed using Aquasoil heavily, but why go through all of that when there are so many other substrates that are safer? remember, ADA Aquasoil is designed to be used in planted aquariums,not necessarily vivariums. the cycling process is essentially that of cycling a new aquarium, but could take up to six weeks before it's ready for use.
    Bill: Good point....I was just thinking with the bioactivity, it would be more natural for the frog, and after the initial setup, less maintenance.......But I wasn't aware of the cycling process. Thanks for changing my mind!

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    Besides, ADA substrate is SOOO expensive. I also have planted aquariums, and I think it's way overpriced for what it's worth.

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    agreed. but for those who like to be "trendy", more power to them. personally, i prefer to go cheap on substrates, kitty litter, blasting sand, pond gravel, dirt.....lol
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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