Sex this Pixie Please

[Lija]

Look at the GABF care article. There is a great image by John of a true edulis and it is a young male.

Frog Forum - African Bullfrog - Pyxicephalus adspersus - Care and Breeding

gotta do some reading, i got it mixed up then.

[GrifTheGreat]

gotta do some reading, i got it mixed up then.

Don't worry. Everything ABF is confusing now and I pretty much do mean everything Lol!

[Lija]

agree, i suggest we do a summary to the best of our knowledge.
we are not arguing if that frog is giant, we all agree it is not, right?
so now we gotta decide what is that and why? is it edulis or angustiseps? and why? and perhaps we all need to do some digging, i know I need to do so for sure. and i need to get more coffee

[SCF]

Let's just get Philippe de vosjoli to weigh in on this and be done with it. I actually have asked him once before on species identification... He never got back to me.

[SCF]

I believe the only true indicator between it being P. Edulis and P. Angusticeps would be (like Grif brought up) width of the odontoids in comparison to height.

[Eddy22]

Should I try to open its mouth and take a photo?

[GrifTheGreat]

I believe the only true indicator between it being P. Edulis and P. Angusticeps would be (like Grif brought up) width of the odontoids in comparison to height.

I am not exactly sure why so many get confused between Giants and Smaller species except those without prior knowlege. They used the odontoids to differentiate adspersus from angusticeps so my first thought is that the two look very similar only one is larger and has a few defining features. Many other species are called Dwarfs even if they are not the true edulis. This is part of what can be very confusing.

[SCF]

You're right, I had to re-read that. The new genus updates are a good cause for confusion.