Hello all, New to the forum intro

[Heatheranne]

^ Normal tree frog spots or "birthmarks". Lynn likes to call them freckles .



^ Camouflage and effects of light on the frogs.

[flybyferns]

Hi Juice,

How is Rio today
As far as I know the mantis are not poisonous.
But let's ask Jeff to be 100% sure.

However, how big is your frog and how large was the mantis?
Did the frog struggle when it ate the mantis?
If it was large...I'm not so sure it would be very easy to digest.t could bite.
" " " " ... keep an eye on the frogs poop or the lack there of.

Are you sure there are no more mantis in Rio's enclosure -- as I think they could bite.

And maybe get a little lock on the enclosure latch ; you don't want an accidental froggy escapes !

Keep us posted !
Enjoy him ! We would love to see some photos !

Lynn

[JeffreH]

Mantes are not poisonous - but that isn't to say that any wild caught specimens did not come into contact with some kind of chemical -cide or consumed an insect that might itself be toxic. Both of which would be unlikely though, in my opinion, as the mantis itself would have probably succumb to either before being eaten by the frog. As a VERY general rule that should not be taken too literally; predatory, cryptic insect species that are heavily camouflaged are not poisonous.

Just my $0.02 - Heather and Lynn have provided some great information and questions to help us further along.

[juice]

Thought I sent this yesterday apparently i never hit the post button.

Thanks for the reply. When I got home last night he was much better. Temperature at 80 with about 70 % humidity. That held all night. Is it true they can't see red? I purchased the red bulb for night heating and observing him at night or should I be turning that off at some point too. Thanks for pointing out the distilled water bowl comment. I will be sure to use bottles spring water for him now. All seems to be good with him he is eating, moving around, his skin looks good and I think he is doing well. I will try and get some pics up soon,

[juice]

Thanks Jeff appreciate the insight.

[juice]

Here are some pics of Rio and his home. Sorry for the quality I was using my phone and with him being small I had to zoom in causing some distortion.

[juice]

Hi Lynn

He is much better now. I think it may have just been to hot in his enclosure. When I removed one of the two bulbs the temperature drop 10 degrees. I also added a piece of plexi glass to keep some of the moisture in. The enclosure is now running pretty steady.

The mantis was little. To compare think of a mealworm with arms and legs. Rio gobbled him up with no problem I'm sure the crickets were bigger then the mantis.

Definately need to get a lock just to ensure my daughter doesn't add anything else. I explained to her why it was unsafe for her RIO and she promised not to do it again. She is only 6 though so a lock it will be.

I will try and get some pics up tonight.

[juice]

^ Camouflage and effects of light on the frogs.

What are you feeding him!!! My god that guy looks like he can beat me up. Very impressive!!