Swollen chin?

[Jeffww]

So I've finally trained mippy to eat just about everything. He takes nightcrawlers, silkworms and crickets with quite a bit of ferocity. But now I'm starting to notice his chin is getting a little bit swollen? Is this normal as a pacman ages? From what I've read, in other frogs swollen chins mean some kind of toxicity.

Does he look normal to you guys?

[Pyxiefan001]

Hard to tell from the pic, but he could be just developing a throat sac like all mature males do. If you suspect something may be amiss, however, answer the "Trouble in the Enclosure" (http://www.frogforum.net/pacman-frog...enclosure.html) questions so we can know if there's anything wrong parameter wise.

[GrifTheGreat]

Can't tell from the picture, but a swollen throat does not determine that the frog is male. Females sometimes can have a very large round throat. A saggy throat would suggest that the frog has been calling and there would be bruising on the throat.

[Lija]

hehehe, somebody is a boy it is so funny when they just starting to call, mine would pop his sac out and then croak something high pitched and you are like " what the heck that was" lol, now he is just sitting with his throat hanging


of course it might be not that, but it sure looks like it.

[GrifTheGreat]

hehehe, somebody is a boy it is so funny when they just starting to call, mine would pop his sac out and then croak something high pitched and you are like " what the heck that was" lol, now he is just sitting with his throat hanging


of course it might be not that, but it sure looks like it.

One of my male Ornates uses his vocal sack as a pillow. Pretty funny!

JeffWW.
A large round throat does not mean male though. Unless you have been hearing your frog call and the throat is baggy and bruised then it is male, but Females can have a large throat. You can tell the difference between a vocal sack and a large female throat though so keep an eye on the frog for verification.

[Jeffww]

I don't think I've heard him call yet. If I have I probably slept through it. Ocassionally I hear random squeaking/chriping like at 4am. But it always sounded like it was coming out of the window and not his cage. Could that be him?

1. Size of enclosure
12x12 exoterra, I have a 10g waiting around. Just didn't really want to set it up yet.
2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences
1
3. Humidity
70-80%
4. Temperature
82 in the day ~79 at night.
5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish
Bottled spring water with Prime
6. Materials used for substrate
cocofiber
7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials.
- How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv.
A small vrisea broom and pothos. Both in planters.
8. Main food source
Cricks, nightcrawlers and silkworms.
9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often)
Every other day Calcium + d3. Weekly vitamins.
10. Lighting
13W 6500k fluorescent. He hides in the shade of the plants during the day though.
11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure
small heat pad. Side mounted
12. When is the last time he/she ate
Eats every day. Hasn't missed a meal.
13. Have you found poop lately
Pooped just last night.
14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)
15. How old is the frog
maybe 2 months old now
16. How long have you owned him/her
This week is the first month.
17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred
probably farm raised.
18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats
Mentioned
19. How often the frog is handled
Maybe once a week to soak him. I always use a styrofoam cup to handle him. Never actually pickh im up.
20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area
I only go into the room to sleep and feed him.
21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)
Daily water changes. I'm doing a soil change today.

[Lija]

damn.... nothing to correct lol good job! i'd like to add though why just one pic? i wanna more!

by the way 12x12 exo terra will do for the rest of his life if that is a male.

[Jeffww]

damn.... nothing to correct lol good job! i'd like to add though why just one pic? i wanna more!

by the way 12x12 exo terra will do for the rest of his life if that is a male.

If pacman frogs can get a nuptial pad on only one toe at first then I'm pretty sure he's a boy at this point. It also might explain his distended throat and the chirping at night! Looks like I was just being paranoid as usual.

Here he is sitting in a plastic tub before being put back in his cleaned out cage. He actually jumped out of the critter keeper he was soaking in even though the walls are about 6.5" high. He's got hops. He's a little more brown than usual in this pic. Probably because he was freaking out over being outside a container in the open. Colored right back to his normal frog green when he went back into his cage.



And here he is eating a silkworm:

[GrifTheGreat]

Yep that's a male.