Very worried, my Goober will not eat

[Eridu Serpent]

Can anyone advise me please or just reassure me?

Goober my ABF giant (8mths old roughly) has not eaten in about 10 to 12 days.
He is normally very greedy but he is just refusing food, turns right away from it.
I can tell he has lost weight.
The odd thing is though he pooped in his water yesterday.
He has also shed recently.
There is NO food in his enclosure, as I normally feed him in a different tub or with tongs
while he sits in his bath.

Tonight he still will not eat.
I have tried him on crickets, locusts, slugs, roaches and his fave King worms.
How long can they go before it becomes a problem and something dangerous?

His tank is 27 degrees ambient temp, deep in his soil it is 29 to 31.
I know the temps are fine as the beeper has not gone off and I can see the readings.
He has a moist area, water and hide.
Day bulb if cold, moon bulb of a night.

I have no idea what to do.
Anyone?

Thank you for your time

[Lija]

you are around for quite some time, I'm sure everything is correct, but still would you please run down all questions as well would you please post some current pics.
just a question, why deep part of substrate is warmer then air? how do you heat? how did his poop yesterday look like, normal, usual amount and consistency?

[GrifTheGreat]

Answer these questions and repost the answers here in your thread.
http://www.frogforum.net/african-bul...enclosure.html

Why is the temperature under the soil warmer than the ambient air temp?? This should never be. They burrow to cool off and thermoregulate much like when they bathe. If he wanted to aestivate he would die from the temperature not being cool under the soil as they need it to be.

Answer those questions and we will figure this out.

[Eridu Serpent]

Question 1
2,5ft by 2ft 1.5ft tall.

2.
One female with him, same age.
3.
60%
4.
Ambient temp is 27 degrees above soil.
29 to 30 under soil in one area.
24 degrees in another area, kept constantly moist and covered by a roof tile.
ALL regulated by thermostats.
5.
Filtered water
6.
Moss and eco earth.
7.
Artificial.
8.
Crickets, locusts, slugs, king worms, miel worms.
9.
Calcium/vit is mixed in with the insects food.
10.
40 watt heat bulb as and when needed.
Low wattage UVB bulb 12 hrs a day.
11.
Thermostats...and me.
12.
10 to 12 days ago.
13.
Yesterday, I saw him do it.
I put him in his water and he pooped.
14.
--- It is dark here, web cam will not give good photo.
15.
Roughly 8 mths.
16.
7 mths
17.
Captive bred.
18.
Normally every other night.
Crickets, locusts, slugs, king worms, miel worms, assorted roaches.
No other.
19.
Everytime I feed him or try to.
When being cleaned out.
20.
Low, it is in my bedroom.
21.
I change the water every other night or if pooped in straight away.
I change the eco earth/moss every 2mths...clean the tank with hot water.
Wash the rocks.
ALL rocks are natural and non pourous.

[GrifTheGreat]

Is the filtered water treated?

Raise the humidity to 78% to 80% and occational spikes of 90%.

Temp can have a drop to 78°(26°) at night and be fine. Day temp seems good.

Try offering Night Crawlers as a feeder. You could even try offering a Fuzzy. Also raise the humidity before offering food.

[Eridu Serpent]

He will not eat night crawlers, I have a tank of about a thousand earth worms and both frogs refuse to eat them.
Pickle will only eat them if they are in a pile, so she has one gulp then they slither off.
The humidity is a problem at the moment, I cannot get it that high as our atmosphere is very dry at the moment.
I will have to keep spraying every 30 mins.
At the moment the heat cable is off, as I said the thermostat controls it and it has not been on for ages.
It is warm enough without it on.

I tried to get him to eat by giving him a change of scenery, I put a tank outside in the sun for a while with water in it.
He just sat under the shade while Pickle swam around.

He´s always been a picky eater, lazy but he would pack away 50 king worms in a sitting...or as many crickets/miel worms etc.

[Lija]

apart to what Grif said and assuming the water is treated and to clarify - he eats but not as aggressive as he used to and only if food is wiggling in front of his hose, did i get it right?

[Eridu Serpent]

The reason the temp is different is under one part of his tank where the deep moist soil is there is a heat cable set on a thermostat.
The rest of the tank is heated by the bulb when needed, at the moment we are having temps between 30 to 34 outside the house,
so it is slightly cooler indoors.
He has a deep hole under a roof tile, that area is kept nice and wet for him, this is much colder...24 degrees.
He basically has a warm area and a colder...then his water to go in.
Goobs is sitting in the warm bit now.
His poop seemed normal and there was a lot as usual.
I have another living with him a female named Pickle, same age.
She is eating less but frequently.
Goober looks healthy but I think he looks thinner.
He has not been in his water for ages so it could just be that he is not full of water.

Goober has always been a brat when it comes to food, he will not move to get anything so he refuses to eat Dubias.
If the food does not wriggly directly in front of him he will not eat it.
So he would eat anything but them.
I just have no idea why he is not eating, it is quite a worry.