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    First spotted frog of the warm season snuggling up against my garage last night. I... have a frog hoarding problem. Hasn't been much of an issue, but I found an American Bullfrog this size (about 1" SVL) last year and it died very quickly. In that case, it would seem it didn't spend enough time as a tadpole. I couldn't believe how tiny that bullfrog was. This is the first leopard frog I've seen around here. I've got it set up in a comfortable temporary half/half tank. I'm just curious if it has a chance at life, or, if like the tiny bullfrog, it's some kind of freak of nature and is doomed to die.

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    Most wild frogs carry some kind of internal parasites or disease that while don't seem to affect them when you find them, when coupled with a compromised immune system from the stress of being brought into captivity can lead to severe increase in symptoms or even death. Make sure to keep him in a quite area with several places to hide inside his tank either fake plants, one of the bark hides, even an over turned flower pot will work. Also cover 3 sides or the tank with a dark background that will help him settle in

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    Uhhh.. thanks... I guess? I know all this... the question is about the small size of the frog (and extrapolated to a previously caught undersized bullfrog [for clarification, the 4 "healthy sized" ones I caught are still alive and kicking] that was massively undersized and died)... Just saying, your post was most unhelpful and seems to ignore the ... point of my thread.

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    No where in your op did you say anything about 4 healthy frogs. You asked what this one's chance of survival was and comment about another one you caught that died. I don't see what questions you posted in there that I missed. No one can tell you what the chances this frog while survive are based in on this picture and the little blurb you wrote under it, i simply gave my opinion on how to give him the best chance of making the transition, which I apologize if I'm mistaken but is the closest someone can come to answering your question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duriel View Post
    I'm just curious if it has a chance at life, or, if like the tiny bullfrog, it's some kind of freak of nature and is doomed to die.
    A 1" bullfrog isn't a freak of nature, and though on the small side it is still normal. See the chart of metamorph sizes here: Untitled Document and they found new metamorphs ranged from 2.5cm to 5.2cm (1" to 2") with an average length of 3.7cm (~1.5"). It's probably worth pointing out that most of the time the resulting metamorphs end up considerably smaller than the tadpoles they were only a few short weeks ago.

    Unfortunately the same website doesn't have info on leopard frogs, but they do have stats on the very similar pickerels: Untitled Document and they are even smaller than bullfrog metamorphs. This agrees with my own anecdotal pond observations of the many leopards I have nearby. So I wouldn't consider the size of a 1" leopard frog to be an impediment to it's survival.

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