unclechester/brian: you're right that link is "kaput" i went to the main site and it said it was not working... the taddies came from a big planter i filled with water, plunked a giant rock in the middle, situated it next to my pond, and stood back and waited... i have a happy northern green frog that enjoys my pond and i think a bullfrog too, the only frogs i can hear at night are tree frogs, the grey ones i think. eyes are definitely lateral. i will post a few more pix in the next post...