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    This is strange. I just heard my adult female. . .call. I know only males call but I'm positive mine is a girl. I've had her for at least a few years and she hasn't grown hardly at all (unless girth counts lol) since I got her (she was already an adult then). I heard it twice. It sounded very similar to a male's call, but higher pitched. Strangely, I've heard this sound emanate from my Pyxie's vicinity before, but as I also always had my headphones in while computing at the time(s), I was never completely sure about what I heard. But tonight, there was no mistake. My girl "called."

    There are no other frogs in the room. Indeed, she's the only frog I have. I was in the room at the time, but was doing nothing of any importance around her cage. I was sitting in the dark with my laptop, searching about something completely unrelated even, my headphones out for a change. And then. . ."call."

    Is there a reason why female pyxies would make call-like noises? Could it be environmentally related? Could she perhaps have the. . ."itch to scratch?" She was acting pretty restless for a few days a couple of months ago but has long since calmed down. The only real change I've made to her habitat as of late was ditch my ReptiFogger (the noise it made drove me mad) and replaced it with a Walgreens ultrasonic cool mist humidifier. Humidity is still kept between 70 and 80%, and temperatures low 80s during the day, and high 70s at night. The new humidifier does produce a lot more fog than the old ReptiFogger did every time my hygrotherm switches it on (you can check out pictures of it on my other recent post in the vivarium section), but as the exo terra cage I keep my frog in is well ventilated I didn't think it would be a problem (it's even rigged to a hygrotherm and programmed to never exceed 80%).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyxiefan001 View Post
    This is strange. I just heard my adult female. . .call. I know only males call but I'm positive mine is a girl. I've had her for at least a few years and she hasn't grown hardly at all (unless girth counts lol) since I got her (she was already an adult then). I heard it twice. It sounded very similar to a male's call, but higher pitched. Strangely, I've heard this sound emanate from my Pyxie's vicinity before, but as I also always had my headphones in while computing at the time(s), I was never completely sure about what I heard. But tonight, there was no mistake. My girl "called."

    There are no other frogs in the room. Indeed, she's the only frog I have. I was in the room at the time, but was doing nothing of any importance around her cage. I was sitting in the dark with my laptop, searching about something completely unrelated even, my headphones out for a change. And then. . ."call."

    Is there a reason why female pyxies would make call-like noises? Could it be environmentally related? Could she perhaps have the. . ."itch to scratch?" She was acting pretty restless for a few days a couple of months ago but has long since calmed down. The only real change I've made to her habitat as of late was ditch my ReptiFogger (the noise it made drove me mad) and replaced it with a Walgreens ultrasonic cool mist humidifier. Humidity is still kept between 70 and 80%, and temperatures low 80s during the day, and high 70s at night. The new humidifier does produce a lot more fog than the old ReptiFogger did every time my hygrotherm switches it on (you can check out pictures of it on my other recent post in the vivarium section), but as the exo terra cage I keep my frog in is well ventilated I didn't think it would be a problem (it's even rigged to a hygrotherm and programmed to never exceed 80%).
    I believe the female has a response call, but it is not very audible for us to hear. Not only this it is used in response to the males call during breeding season. Sounds more like a grunt. Describe the sound if you can. I have a male and their isnnothing HIGH about the sound of his call.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    I believe the female has a response call, but it is not very audible for us to hear. Not only this it is used in response to the males call during breeding season. Sounds more like a grunt. Describe the sound if you can. I have a male and their is nothing HIGH about the sound of his call.
    Well, it's like a I say: I thought it sounded like a rather high pitched male call. It was more like a farting noise. I reckon I definitely heard it this time because I was only a few feet from the cage at the time. I know I've heard her make it before, but she only does it once or so in a green moon. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyxiefan001 View Post
    Well, it's like a I say: I thought it sounded like a rather high pitched male call. It was more like a farting noise. I reckon I definitely heard it this time because I was only a few feet from the cage at the time. I know I've heard her make it before, but she only does it once or so in a green moon. Thanks.
    Get some good pics of her up. Especially of the throat and head.


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    There was a recent-ish thread around about someone who wanted to know if their frog was male or female. It was concluded female. Then, he heard it call and was able to get a recording of it by recording all night. It definitely was a call of some sort but very different from the male's croak.
    I tried looking for it, but I can't find the thread anymore. Hopefully someone will and be able to find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
    There was a recent-ish thread around about someone who wanted to know if their frog was male or female. It was concluded female. Then, he heard it call and was able to get a recording of it by recording all night. It definitely was a call of some sort but very different from the male's croak.
    I tried looking for it, but I can't find the thread anymore. Hopefully someone will and be able to find it.
    I remember that thread.

    To Pyxiefan: What you are hearing is a female vocalizing. It can really throw a keeper a loop when trying to determine sex at a earlier age, and can give a false positive of a male. It has not be proven or backed by any data why they make these croaks/noise/grunt (of sorts). I would like to believe they are voicing their approval of your husbandry by making this noise of "happiness." I personally have witnessed this sound as well, which typically happens after a substrate change.

    Edit: I do realize yours is a adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCF View Post
    I remember that thread.

    To Pyxiefan: What you are hearing is a female vocalizing. It can really throw a keeper a loop when trying to determine sex at a earlier age, and can give a false positive of a male. It has not be proven or backed by any data why they make these croaks/noise/grunt (of sorts). I would like to believe they are voicing their approval of your husbandry by making this noise of "happiness." I personally have witnessed this sound as well, which typically happens after a substrate change.

    Edit: I do realize yours is a adult.
    Aha! That's that mystery solved. You're right. I'm usually so accustomed to her just sitting around like a green rock in a divot in the substrate, or in her water basin, waiting to be fed all the time, that on the (very) odd occasion she speaks up it throws me in a loop lol.

    TO GRIF: here's some recent pictures (my avatar as you can see). Never thought to get a picture of the underside. The second pic is the best I have of the throat at the mo.
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    It's a female for sure.
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    I posted once about my female calling. I got shot down because someone swore up and down that females can't make noise at all. But whatever, mine is a female and it makes noises once in a great while, and she's not the only one I see!

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    I am SO happy to read this thread, my female has been croaking too...like the sound a young male makes.
    I have Goober & Pickle...he makes deep grunty croaks, Pickle makes the odd small croak while sitting in the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyxiefan001 View Post
    Aha! That's that mystery solved. You're right. I'm usually so accustomed to her just sitting around like a green rock in a divot in the substrate, or in her water basin, waiting to be fed all the time, that on the (very) odd occasion she speaks up it throws me in a loop lol.

    TO GRIF: here's some recent pictures (my avatar as you can see). Never thought to get a picture of the underside. The second pic is the best I have of the throat at the mo.
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    Can't see well enough, but if didn't know any better that all yellow throat makes me think you have a male Pyxicephalus mozambiqus, but I can't recall ever seeing baby pictures of one and if you bought this frog as an adult then we didn't.

    Looks good though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Can't see well enough, but if didn't know any better that all yellow throat makes me think you have a male Pyxicephalus mozambiqus, but I can't recall ever seeing baby pictures of one and if you bought this frog as an adult then we didn't.

    Looks good though.
    Never even heard of the species. Is this pic any better? It's from back when I first got her/it. If this still doesn't help I'll try for a throat shot the next time I take her out for feeding. Thanks.

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    I originally bought her from an anonymous dealer on another forum called Arachnopets (formerly Arachnoboards), a predominately spider forum. Long forgot his/her name, though he/she/it did mention that he/she was keeping her in a cage with a larger frog of the same species, possibly a male specimen, and was peddling them as P. adspersus. . .or did he just say "Pixie frog?" No telling anymore.

    Anyway if this frog was in fact a male, wouldn't I have been hearing calls much more frequently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyxiefan001 View Post
    Never even heard of the species. Is this pic any better? It's from back when I first got her/it. If this still doesn't help I'll try for a throat shot the next time I take her out for feeding. Thanks.

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    I originally bought her from an anonymous dealer on another forum called Arachnopets (formerly Arachnoboards), a predominately spider forum. Long forgot his/her name, though he/she/it did mention that he/she was keeping her in a cage with a larger frog of the same species, possibly a male specimen, and was peddling them as P. adspersus. . .or did he just say "Pixie frog?" No telling anymore.

    Anyway if this frog was in fact a male, wouldn't I have been hearing calls much more frequently?
    Its a female.


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