Hi Kurt. That is great that your White's are five and thriving.I hope I did not offend you or anyone else regarding my comments on Petco and Petsmart. If I did, I truly apologize as that was not my intent. I am just going by my personal experience and spoke out of frustration. I just wish he would not have been infested with parasites the way he was and I wish the vet that gave me the ivermectin would have weighed my frog so I would not have given him toxic levels of the stuff...again, just speaking out of frustration. This was my first WT frog, but I can assure you it will not be my last. I just want to learn everything I can about them. They are amazing to watch...even when they are just stuck on the side of the tank doing nothing. Thanks again for your suggestions. I am sure I will have tons more questions when I get my next one.