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    sabre
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    No worries~ I appreciate the advice! I would have edited the first post but apparently there is an editing window. Thank you for taking the time to answer.

    1) Maybe I can clarify a bit to make the feeding thing a little less confusing. The bottle says something to effect of 'Feed 5-6 pellets per day per frog and siphon up the uneaten food after an hour.' I put the food in in small amounts and check back in about 20 minutes (changed the schedule up a bit from the first post). If they've eaten it all, I put a bit more in. Then I come back in about an hour and siphon up anything that's left. I was worried they wouldn't self-regulate (and maybe they aren't and I'm doing it wrong) but I don't think they're getting anywhere near ten a day. And I started feeding them twice a day because I noticed in the morning that the largest froglet would snatch up a lot of the food and the two smallest ones were slow to feed but in the evening, the little froglets are first to feed. I don't know why that is exactly, but as long as I know the little ones are actually eating, I've decided not to worry about them so much. And I was kind of thinking that so long as I was faithful in sucking up the food quickly, if everyone was well-fed then the little ones would grow and the larger ones might think twice before snacking on their siblings. But if that's a bad idea, I will of course stop.

    I honestly can't tell if the small ones can fit in the largest froglet's mouth. And, not to say it couldn't happen because I was worried about it, but I received three tadpoles (two of which are now almost completely morphed) and while they don't interact with the froglets as much as the froglets interact with one another, I've never seen any nipping or signs of damage. But I plan to move everyone over very shortly--probably even earlier than Friday as I'd said earlier though I think the last frogpole will probably be fully morphed by Thurs and I'm not sure whether I should disturb him or not. I decided that I finally have changed them over to pretty much 100% my water today and I do have other containers I could separate the two smallest froglets into if necessary and I figured I could 'steal' water from the 20g which would help to lower the volume down some. I've been wanting to take things slow since I wasn't sure about their water parameters or even the changing, but I'm afraid that--especially with ten of the little guys--I might be taking things too slowly!

    And as far as feeding the tad goes, since I haven't had luck finding a mortar and pestle, I've been soaking the pellets and crushing them up already wet. I've noticed the tad seems to be interested in the ZooMed Tad & Frog bites I've been feeding the froglets, but I don't think it's able to pick them up at all. I put in three to four crushed up baby Turtle ReptoMin sticks and some crushed up freeze dried Gammarus after each water change (which is hopefully not too much, but I am beginning to think this particular tad was far enough behind in development that it really needs its own space).

    2) I can definitely decrease the depth. I filled the tank in preparation and the temp is nice and stable at the same level as the container.

    3) Yeah, I figured 2 gallons per frog would probably not keep for long. XD

    4) Really? That's great! I'm still not sure whether I actually want to put it in though as most of them seem to prefer to eat their food off the bottom (the ZooMed food sinks). I hope they'll outgrow that behavior as their water gets deeper and their food gets more bouyant. lol

    5) I'm hoping they'll be happy in there. I've ordered some plants and plan to get everything growing out and happy so that the landscape is somewhat indestructible and settled when it's time for them to move in. I'm already looking into ideas about what to do if the nitrates run high (pothos overflow filters and such). But, of course, if water changes and pothos/plants aren't enough, I'll find another solution but that won't be for a couple months at least (I think/hope). And I have a temporary grow out home they can hang out in if they aren't quite big enough for the 90g when they outgrow the 20g.

    Another Question I thought of!

    8) I'm ordering some plants that will be arriving later in the week. Should I worry about disinfecting them before introducing them to the froglets?

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    sabre
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    Update:

    Since the little frog was staying small (there were two little froglets, but one must have had a growth spurt), I went ahead and separated everyone into containers (little froglet in one, froglets and frogpoles in the other, and the tad in the 'mothership.') I'm getting their hides ready tonight so I figured they could get used to cleaner water and a little greater depth tonight before moving over to the tank in a day or two. There was a little bit of drama with the move but nobody jumped out of the cups or ended up out of the water which was good.

    Do I need to be worried about the small froglet getting lonely? I know they don't 'need friends' but they are rather sociable frogs, aren't they? And they were getting along quite well together. I suppose it can't be helped either way as I don't want the little froglet to become lunch.

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    Default Re: First time with ACF froglets

    Hi,

    don´t worry- although I also think that ACFs shouldn´t be kept alone forever, he probably won´t even recognize the difference As long as he is considerably smaller than the others, he wouldn´t be safe in their presence.
    Amphibians kept:
    9.10.3 Hymenochirus boettgeri
    2.4.0 Xenopus laevis
    0.1.0 Hypselotriton orientalis
    3.0.0 Hyloxalus azureiventris
    4.1.0 Pipa parva
    2.1.2 Bombina orientalis
    1.0.0 Ceratophrys cranwelli
    2.2.0 Bombina orientalis

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