Hissers and Dubias

[timscrape]

Just wondering. Is it ok to keep hissers and dubias in the same enclosure? There may be a really obvious reason not to but I'm not seeing a problem with it.

[SCF]

You can keep them together. They are both fairly passive and require close to the same care. The nymphs will be at risk of being eaten though, so it's recommended to keep them separate if you plan on breeding them.

[timscrape]

Awesome. Thanks. Yes I plan on breeding. We have a pretty good size female pac right now and are going to be getting a giant pyxie soon. I want to be able to feed both from the colonies. I really appreciate the info.

[demon amphibians]

You can keep them together nymphs being eaten is no more of a threat then if you were to have the species separate. But separating the newborns is always a good idea for many reasons. However just remember that dubia's can not climb smooth surfaces and hisser can very easily. And the small babies are very talented escape artists.

[SCF]

You can keep them together nymphs being eaten is no more of a threat then if you were to have the species separate. But separating the newborns is always a good idea for many reasons. However just remember that dubia's can not climb smooth surfaces and hisser can very easily. And the small babies are very talented escape artists.

Hissers will prey upon baby dubia nymphs. Yes, there is more of a threat.

[b24082]

You can keep them together nymphs being eaten is no more of a threat then if you were to have the species separate. But separating the newborns is always a good idea for many reasons. However just remember that dubia's can not climb smooth surfaces and hisser can very easily. And the small babies are very talented escape artists.

Demon A, we personally have kept hissers with dubias. Hissers will prey upon dubia nymphs. Where does your knowledge of them not doing so come from?

[demon amphibians]

Demon A, we personally have kept hissers with dubias. Hissers will prey upon dubia nymphs. Where does your knowledge of them not doing so come from?

I keep 300+ hissers in with one of my dubia colonies they pose a threat if you do not have enough moisture just as you would have a threat with adult dubia's cannibalizing on there own young. No more of a threat no less, so if you know what you are doing you wont have this problem. And how long have you kept a colony? just wondering. If i remember right you didnt have a colony as of a about a month ago. So my 15 months and 10's of thousands of roaches breeding vibrantly and I am friends with a few roach breeding experts who breed over 2 dozen different species of roaches is where i get my knowledge from. Dubia's and hissers ARE compatible, however if you would like a list of roaches that are not compatible i can provide that.

With this said it is always good to separate the infant roaches and keep them in their own bin regardless if you have hissers in there or not. Their own mothers will eat them if conditions are not right. They just flat out do better separated. But this is only if you really wanna get nit picky. I separate mine because I am culturing about 5,000 a month plus 1000 every month. So this month i am expecting 6,000 babies and 7,000 to 8,000 for the month of April. As many as i have that are nymphs about to be adults by August or September i will be expecting 20,000ish a month. If i didn't remove the babies it would be a big mess. I clean my breeder bin once a month and this is the bin i keep the hissers. Although i have only had them in there for going on 2 months i have had very very little cannibalism going on. I do mist every day which i believe has a huge impact on that factor.

So from my experience and what i learn from experts and also online articles hissers pose no more of a threat than the adult dubia's do. If the habitat conditions are where they should be..... Now if you disagree simply remove them easy as that. A new set up shouldn't cost more then 20 bucks.