New member needing some help!

[mpmistr]

WOW, I wish the people at the pet store were as knowledgable as the people on this board, lol!


Thank you for all the input, I am going to get rid of the fish and just keep this tank for the frogs.

So just to be sure, If i get rid of the fish, the Ick wont be an issue for the frogs? no need to do anything?


Thanks again for all the help, you all are life savers!

Good move. Ich won't affect the frogs. The LFS near you is ridiculous if they're selling those things, they're cute as 'fry' but those are as much an aquarium fish as a big mouth bass. In the future I would google any species you find from there first before spending money.

I can only speak from personal experience about african clawed frogs and Ich but I used to keep my frogs with a small school of zebra danio, they developed Ich and were moved to another tank and treated.

The frogs stayed in the same tank for months and months until I moved them into a 40B in October of last year and it was never treated for Ich and they're all big fat happy frogs and about as healthy as they can be.

No host = No Ich and ACF are not suitable hosts for this parasite. In time the Ich will become free floating and die.

As a side note the reason I say use heat to treat fish with Ich is it speeds up their life cycle, they attach to fix, drop off, multiply than effect the fish again. When you heat up the water their life cycle is shorter and you can zap them with the Ich med. Though I've seen Ich treated with heat and salt too. I try to use medication as a last resort. Most 'problems' in aquariums are due to lack of maintenance and proper care, usually when you nip that in the bud you fix your problems 99% of the time.

[joebo27]

Thanks again!

All great info and help!

I love these frog's and really want them to be healthy! when I saw the ick i got very worried!!

Good move. Ich won't affect the frogs. The LFS near you is ridiculous if they're selling those things, they're cute as 'fry' but those are as much an aquarium fish as a big mouth bass. In the future I would google any species you find from there first before spending money.

I can only speak from personal experience about african clawed frogs and Ich but I used to keep my frogs with a small school of zebra danio, they developed Ich and were moved to another tank and treated.

The frogs stayed in the same tank for months and months until I moved them into a 40B in October of last year and it was never treated for Ich and they're all big fat happy frogs and about as healthy as they can be.

No host = No Ich and ACF are not suitable hosts for this parasite. In time the Ich will become free floating and die.

As a side note the reason I say use heat to treat fish with Ich is it speeds up their life cycle, they attach to fix, drop off, multiply than effect the fish again. When you heat up the water their life cycle is shorter and you can zap them with the Ich med. Though I've seen Ich treated with heat and salt too. I try to use medication as a last resort. Most 'problems' in aquariums are due to lack of maintenance and proper care, usually when you nip that in the bud you fix your problems 99% of the time.

[mpmistr]

Thanks again!

All great info and help!

I love these frog's and really want them to be healthy! when I saw the ick i got very worried!!

If you want to be 110% super safe do this. Remove the fish, keep the frogs in quarantine for a bit longer. Use an aquarium heater, set it to maximum. Let the tank stand for one week at 90F or whatever your heater can do. Then do a 50% water change get the water down to the low 70s (72F is ideal) and then introduce the frogs back again.

Your frogs are 10 years old so I have no doubt you know how to care for them from here on out.

[joebo27]

do you think a total water change would be too extreme?

instead of the heating.

If you want to be 110% super safe do this. Remove the fish, keep the frogs in quarantine for a bit longer. Use an aquarium heater, set it to maximum. Let the tank stand for one week at 90F or whatever your heater can do. Then do a 50% water change get the water down to the low 70s (72F is ideal) and then introduce the frogs back again.

Your frogs are 10 years old so I have no doubt you know how to care for them from here on out.

[mpmistr]

do you think a total water change would be too extreme?

instead of the heating.

I don't think it would make much of a difference either way. As long as you preserve the beneficial bacteria in your filter I don't see a problem. In my opinion reintroducing the frogs probably won't hurt anything. Ich just does not affect them in my experience.

[Mentat]

Hello and welcome to FF! If you did not add any medications to water can return your ACF as soon as remove the fish. A normal water change is fine; but changing 100% of the water could stress out the bio-filter and it will do nothing to help out frogs. Ick is a protozoan fish parasite that will stop reproducing and eventually die due to lack of host once fish are gone. Good luck !