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    Would like to know what type of 'pacman' I have if you can tell?
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    I'm horrible at IDing frogs, but I think cranwelli are the only species with albinos...

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    I am no expert either but looking at its eyes I don't think it is a albino.
    I think it is called a apricot morph. WAG

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    Its and Albino Ceratophrys cranwelli.


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    It's a C. cranwelli! Hard to tell from pics but if eyes are red it's an albino; however if eyes are black it's a leucistic form. Either way, would recommend use a red or black (moonlight type) lights, since they are sensitive to bright lights. Here is a good care article for them: http://www.frogforum.net/content/pac...-breeding-170/.
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    I am confused I though that true albinos eyes are pink or red?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
    It's a C. cranwelli! Hard to tell from pics but if eyes are red it's an albino; however if eyes are black it's a leucistic form. Either way, would recommend use a red or black (moonlight type) lights, since they are sensitive to bright lights. Here is a good care article for them: Frog Forum - Pacman and Horned Frogs - Ceratophrys - Care and Breeding.
    Nope Carlos . Albinos with black eyes are Amelanistic not Leucistic. Many leucistic reptiles and amphibians are milky white with blue eyes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Charles Bruckner View Post
    I am confused I though that true albinos eyes are pink or red?
    They are, but if they have normal eyes they are Amelanistic. This frog has red eyes.


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    Cheers guys, I can confirm he has got red eyes .... am I correct in thinking its a male as we have heard it call out some evenings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squatepantz View Post
    Cheers guys, I can confirm he has got red eyes .... am I correct in thinking its a male as we have heard it call out some evenings?
    Check for a dark spot on each thumb. Should be on the outside edge of the thumb towards the chest. It will look like a mole. These are nuptial pads and are how you sex these frogs aside from hearing them call.


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    amelanistic frogs and reptiles have red eyes

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    amelanistic means no black pigment. true albino means no melanin at all. but amelanistic reptiles and amphibs are yellows and oranges w red eyes and albinos are clear white w red eyes

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    true albino and amelanistic

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    Quote Originally Posted by pyxieBob View Post
    amelanistic means no black pigment. true albino means no melanin at all. but amelanistic reptiles and amphibs are yellows and oranges w red eyes and albinos are clear white w red eyes
    I meant to type true Albino means no PIGMENT at all. (not melanin) amelanistic means no melanin. so no black pigment. all Amelanistic Pacs have some sort or red or orange eyes

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    leucistic is actual white pigment with dark eyes. brown blue gray or black. every "albino" Pacman so far is actually amelanistic and is C. Cranwelli. and they all do not have black or brown eyes. whether the eyes are some tint of red or orange they are still not dark. the only Pacs that have been white w dark eyes are the Japan Sam mutants. his eyes are dark red. mutant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
    It's a C. cranwelli! Hard to tell from pics but if eyes are red it's an albino; however if eyes are black it's a leucistic form...
    I stand corrected; so leucistic are animals with a reduction of all the pigmented colors in their skin but with usually normal color eyes. So, since your frog eyes are confirmed red and it also have colors on skin, it's an amelanistic Pacman ! Wow I've been calling my "Fresita" an albino when she wasn't .
    Remember to take care of the enclosure and it will take care of your frog !​

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
    I stand corrected; so leucistic are animals with a reduction of all the pigmented colors in their skin but with usually normal color eyes. So, since your frog eyes are confirmed red and it also have colors on skin, it's an amelanistic Pacman ! Wow I've been calling my "Fresita" an albino when she wasn't .
    Lol! Same here. It would appear what I've read DID NOT contain all necessary information to correctly identify these genetic mutations and bobby has cleared that up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pyxieBob View Post
    amelanistic frogs and reptiles have red eyes
    I read that true Amelanistics had normal eyes rather than red or pink. Apparently it was wrong. This was in frogs though.


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    ya they call them albino, but it's sort of just a nickname. like in the snake trade. amelanistic is called "albino" and true albino is called "snow" . so for all intensive proposes you do have an Albino Pacman Frog

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    purposes >:/

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