Frequency of poops

[GRABibus]

Hi,
my GABF only poops 1 time per month (Sometimes 2, but rarely...)
I don't see any health problems : she looks great and has a great appetite. I don't see any sign of impaction or parasites.
She mainly eats Dubia roaches, adult locusts, nightcrawlers and a mice per month.
She eats 1 to 2 times per week.


What's your opinion ?

[Locascio]

i think that there is an issue that maybe your over looking my GABF would poop at lest 1x a week sometimes when it was colder a few extra days but never gone a month...

[GRABibus]

Yes, but which kind of issue...?
If she was impacted, she would be apathic and with no appetite...But she has still a greta appetite and she is not particularly apathic (Looks great).

I don't know what to do ?
Vet ? Waiting again ?
Are there some people with a GABF with very low frequency of poops ?

[SCF]

It could be as simple as you're just not finding or seeing them. It can easily be blended into the substrate.

[GRABibus]

She is the water since 2 weeks, and all she ate since 2 weeks, she didn't poop yet...
Even in warm water...

[SCF]

It has been in the water for 3 weeks straight, without leaving?

[GRABibus]

For 2 weeks.
She burries a lot.
When I exit her from substrate after a long burried period, I put her in water and she stays between 1 to 3 weeks in water, waiting for food and hidden below a fake plant which covers teh water bowl.
Then, after this water period, she goes on substrate and burries for some weeks...etc..
She's fearful and she is unable to stay above the substrate, quiet, as a lot of GABF.

Could it be a problem ?

PS : I don't understand also why she seems so fearful and why she can't stay quiet on the substrate below its hidding bark wood...

[Mentat]

Any fecal exams done by veterinary lately? If yes and clear... maybe, like some humans, she suffers from constipation. That would also explain her "cranky" behaviour .

[SCF]

Most of what you described is typical adult GABF behavior. What is not normal is extended amounts of time not leaving the water whatsoever.

So everyone can see, would you mind posting a "trouble in the enclosure" located at the top of the forum as a sticky?

Have you inspected for mites?

Have you felt the sides of the stomach for any lumps (impaction) ? Frogs will generally soak for much longer periods of time, when something is not right. (besides aquatic/semi aquatic species)

Have you inspected the frog in general for any abnormalities?

[GRABibus]

- I have inspected her, nothing special apparently.
- Mites ? How shoudl I see if there are some mites?
- I felt the side. I don't know how to feel an impaction....

I don't find teh sticky "Trouble in the enclosure"

[SCF]

Mites were just a thought, and come to think of it, if she is burrowing for extended amounts of time, that will most likely not be the case. You can see mites, they are VERY small, but if you look closely, you will see them. I doubt this is the case though, so we could probably rule them out. In cases of an animal having mites, the animal seeks the water to rid or comfort themselves from all those tiny bugs crawling all over them. I do not think this is your issue once again.

Impaction will feel like a hard (semi-hard) or tough lump in the sides of it's stomach. It will slightly protrude a bit farther than one side of the stomach.

[SCF]

http://www.frogforum.net/african-bul...enclosure.html

[GRABibus]

Impaction will feel like a hard (semi-hard) or tough lump in the sides of it's stomach. It will slightly protrude a bit farther than one side of the stomach.

She looks somtimes a little bit bloated, espaecially afetr eating in water. I assume this is because she is full of water.
I touched both sides and could feel something semi hard inside, but maybe it is viscerals or bones....
But clearly, she has a slow digestive process...

You can look at recent pictures or movies and give your opinion also :

http://www.frogforum.net/african-bul...-bullfrog.html

[GRABibus]

1. Size of enclosure?
Exo Terra 24x18x18

2. # of inhabitants - specifically other frogs and size differences?
Only one frog

3. Humidity?
between 50% and 70%
Substrate is humid

4. Temperature?
Day : between 25°C cold spot and 30°C hot spot
Night : 22°C to 24°C

5. Water - type - for both misting and soaking dish?
Mineral water

6. Materials used for substrate?
Blond peat without fertilizers as recent substrate. Otherwise, coc fiber before.

7. Enclosure set up i.e. plants (live or artificial), wood, bark and other materials. - How were things prepared prior to being put into the viv?
Fake plants
Wood barks desinfected in water + chlore, then washed with water during long minutes. Then, passed at microwave oven to kill parasites

8. Main food source?
Pet store

9. Vitamins and calcium? (how often?)
Calcium : 1 to 2 instects dusted per week
Vitamins : 1 insect per month

10. Lighting?
50W basking spot

11. What is being used to maintain the temperature of the enclosure?
50W basking spot + 75W heating cable

12. When is the last time he/she ate?
8 days go.
I test appetite sometimes. She is always hungry

13. Have you found poop lately?
2 weeks ago, deep in the substrate.
She poops 1 to 2 times per month maximum

14. A pic would be helpful including frog and enclosure (any including cell phone pic is fine)



15. How old is the frog?
2 years in the middle of next summer.

16. How long have you owned him/her?
since october 2011

17. Is the frog wild caught or captive bred?
Captive bred

18. Frog food- how often and if it is diverse, what other feeders are used as treats?
Adult locusts
Dubia Roaches
Nightcrawlers
Mice : 1 per month

19. How often the frog is handled?
1 time a day.

20. Is the enclosure kept in a high or low traffic area?
In the main room, where there is the TV.
There is noise the evening.
When I am at home, I often walk near the enclosure.

21. Describe enclosure maintenance (water changes, cleaning, etc)
Water change : everyday
Substrate : 1 time per month

[GRABibus]

I put her this evening in an external breeding box during the changing of the water of her water bowl.
When I put her back in her water bowl, she pooped.
Immediately, she went out and went back on substrate.
=> That means she has been 2 weeks in the water bowl only because she was trying to poop ? (Because she went out immediatle after having pooped)

Those poops from today include meals from mid of April (And maybe beginning of April) until the meal of last week. For the meal of mid of april, that means 3 weeks before to pooping it...That's definitely too long.

As she pooped, does it mean we can exclude an impaction definitely ?
Thank you for your answer and opinion.

By the way, I will show her to a famous exotic vet in Paris to see his opinion because I want to know if there is an issue or not.

[SCF]

I put her this evening in an external breeding box during the changing of the water of her water bowl.
When I put her back in her water bowl, she pooped.
Immediately, she went out and went back on substrate.
=> That means she has been 2 weeks in the water bowl only because she was trying to poop ? (Because she went out immediatle after having pooped)

Those poops from today include meals from mid of April (And maybe beginning of April) until the meal of last week. For the meal of mid of april, that means 3 weeks before to pooping it...That's definitely too long.

As she pooped, does it mean we can exclude an impaction definitely ?
Thank you for your answer and opinion.

By the way, I will show her to a famous exotic vet in Paris to see his opinion because I want to know if there is an issue or not.

I feel this thread is turning a bit alarmist. Your pyxie seems to just be acting like an adult would. If she is defecating, she is not impacted.