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    The thiaminase issue is something that has never been proven, only speculated. I have never seen nor heard of a frog that actually had a B1 deficiency.
    I think that the problem lies in people feeding store bought foods. I think everybody should at least breed some species of roach, as that way you can feed them whatever your animals need. Powdered milk is a perfect source of of calcium for feeder insects. I know exactly what my animals are eating, as my feeders eat better than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpguy View Post
    The thiaminase issue is something that has never been proven, only speculated. I have never seen nor heard of a frog that actually had a B1 deficiency.
    I think that the problem lies in people feeding store bought foods. I think everybody should at least breed some species of roach, as that way you can feed them whatever your animals need. Powdered milk is a perfect source of of calcium for feeder insects. I know exactly what my animals are eating, as my feeders eat better than me.
    Indeed and its cost efficient. I have a dubia colony. Pacman frogs don't care much for them, but the Pyxi loves them. I always offer variety mostly in the form of treats. Hornworms being one of the most used treats and they really like the way they thrash around.


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    If your horned frogs don't like dubia, I would recommend you try some different species. There are many out there and certain ones work better for certain species. Dubia are really one of the worse feeders in the roach world, as far as attracting animals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpguy View Post
    If your horned frogs don't like dubia, I would recommend you try some different species. There are many out there and certain ones work better for certain species. Dubia are really one of the worse feeders in the roach world, as far as attracting animals.
    Its the legs. All spikes. They like how they move, but dont care for the legs. I'm going to breed a bunch of different feeders soon. Especially worms since my frogs main diet consists of Night Crawlers. I need some African Crawlers too.


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    I seem to remember reading that another member that has made little "sausages" from small natural casings
    made from all kinds of organ meats (cooked) the gamut of vitamin supplements combined with dog food ground up.
    and frozen for perserving and warming up to slightly above room temp and tong feeding adult pyxi's and african bull frogs.

    with great results.

    Something I am considering since my wife can't handle feeding live food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpguy View Post
    The thiaminase issue is something that has never been proven, only speculated. I have never seen nor heard of a frog that actually had a B1 deficiency.
    I think that the problem lies in people feeding store bought foods. I think everybody should at least breed some species of roach, as that way you can feed them whatever your animals need. Powdered milk is a perfect source of of calcium for feeder insects. I know exactly what my animals are eating, as my feeders eat better than me.
    Romain lettuce and oranges combined contain more calcium than milk. what you said about supplements is very true they can cause vitamin deficiency which is why you must be careful and do research on the products you are using. I also agree that roaches do provide excellent nutrition. I have been stapling all my frogs on them for over a year. my colony is HUGE I will start selling soon. Also feeding your roaches powdered milk is a no go. Milk is known to cause cause calcium deficiency in humans. who knows if this will happen with frogs too. But none the less you dont wanna feed milk products to your roaches because they contain to much of protein. It will slow breeding and can be fatal to your roaches. I have a recent thread on here that goes into detail on that if you are interested.

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    That milk causing calcium deficiency intrigues me, I have to do more research on that. Nonetheless, I do not grind my food up like many people do, I let my roaches pick what they need.
    Anyways, I know for a fact that higher protein amounts do not slow production, they actually increase them. I need to dig up the study that I read on that recently. I do not give my roaches a high protein diet however, as it's not protein that frogs need, it's the vitamins from the fruits and veggies that they obviously do not hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpguy View Post
    That milk causing calcium deficiency intrigues me, I have to do more research on that. Nonetheless, I do not grind my food up like many people do, I let my roaches pick what they need.
    Anyways, I know for a fact that higher protein amounts do not slow production, they actually increase them. I need to dig up the study that I read on that recently. I do not give my roaches a high protein diet however, as it's not protein that frogs need, it's the vitamins from the fruits and veggies that they obviously do not hunt.
    Too much fat and protein can cause cornial lipidosis which can lead to blindness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GrifTheGreat View Post
    Too much fat and protein can cause cornial lipidosis which can lead to blindness.
    Just imagine if this were true for humans. Americans especially.

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    Diabetes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpguy View Post
    Diabetes
    lol, that is true,but diabetic blind people..ouch.

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