Soon to have tree frogs!

[FrogNewb]

I have recently bought a 20 gallon tank and i have bought coconut fiber substrate, moss, vine, and a few plants. I know i have to mist the tank 2-3 times a day, and i have heard you shouldn't do it while they are sleeping because they have a protective coating around there skin while they sleep. So i would do it when i turn my lights off and before i sleep and when i wake up. if this is wrong please point me in the right direction. I am also concerned about what the best way to get the temperature around 68-74 degrees because the room i will be keeping them in is pretty much the temperature it is out side. And what to do if it gets too hot for them, can anyone help me before i get these frogs i want to make sure i have learned as much as i can to make sure they stay healthy and happy. I am sure i will be asking more questions when i think of them lol.

[Tubby0512]

What kind of tree frogs? Each species need different things.

[FrogNewb]

Green tree frog and Cuban tree frog both American

[UncleChester]

Make sure your tank has plenty of ventilation, isn't hit by natural sunlight for any length of time, and that you use energy efficient light bulbs in the summer and you shouldn't have any trouble with overheating. The frogs you are looking at are from the south and can take more heat than your state can normally dish out.

I know i have to mist the tank 2-3 times a day, and i have heard you shouldn't do it while they are sleeping because they have a protective coating around there skin while they sleep.

It's no problem misting them when they are awake or asleep and I've never heard of a frog with a protective coating that comes out when it's asleep.

Green tree frog and Cuban tree frog both American

In addition to being one of the more toxic treefrogs, a Cuban treefrog can and will eat an American green treefrog. In case it was your plan, please don't house them together or you will most likely end up with only one frog in short order.

[Gentlemangorath]

What Brian said is 100% accurate, never mix frogs for a plethora of reasons. With an 20 gallon tank (assuming it's 18x18x24), you could get a number of either of those frogs though. American Green Tree Frogs are nice but shy, and I have no experience with Cuban Tree Frogs to provide any input on them. Regardless though, you could fit maybe 3-6 smaller frogs in a tank of that size (like American Green Tree Frogs or Gray Tree Frogs), although it's recommended 10 gallons per frog (for decent sized frogs like White's), however, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[FrogNewb]

Make sure your tank has plenty of ventilation, isn't hit by natural sunlight for any length of time, and that you use energy efficient light bulbs in the summer and you shouldn't have any trouble with overheating. The frogs you are looking at are from the south and can take more heat than your state can normally dish out.



It's no problem misting them when they are awake or asleep and I've never heard of a frog with a protective coating that comes out when it's asleep.



In addition to being one of the more toxic treefrogs, a Cuban treefrog can and will eat an American green treefrog. In case it was your plan, please don't house them together or you will most likely end up with only one frog in short order.

I have a screen lid on a 20 gallon aquarium that is 24X12X16, They are going to be in a room that never gets sunlight in it because i already have a bearded dragon. If i get energy efficient light bulbs can i use them in the dome reptile lamp i have? How long do i leave them on for? I also have a heater in my room that keeps my room warm during the winters.

[FrogNewb]

Is no one going to help me it's been 2 days and the tree frogs i ordered are coming this week.

[UncleChester]

I have a screen lid on a 20 gallon aquarium that is 24X12X16, They are going to be in a room that never gets sunlight in it because i already have a bearded dragon. If i get energy efficient light bulbs can i use them in the dome reptile lamp i have? How long do i leave them on for? I also have a heater in my room that keeps my room warm during the winters.

That should be plenty of ventilation, make sure the screen lid has no openings, frogs can squish through remarkably small spaces.

Your reptile dome lamp should be fine to take a CFL bulb, they're usually rated for energy sucking heat lamps. 8-12 hours is a normal daytime photo period. A thermometer in the tank might not hurt.

Is no one going to help me it's been 2 days and the tree frogs i ordered are coming this week.

They're already on the way? I'll stress one last time the need for separate enclosures. Cubans are known to eat American Greens in the wild. This is part of the problem with their invasion into Florida, they are seriously damaging native treefrog populations by not only out competing them, but also eating them.

[FrogNewb]

Oh sorry i guess i should of also said i changed the order to 2 Green tree frogs, I changed it right after i was told not to put them in the same tank.

[UncleChester]

Oh sorry i guess i should of also said i changed the order to 2 Green tree frogs, I changed it right after i was told not to put them in the same tank.

No problem and that's good news. Be sure to share some pictures when they arrive (and of course ask any more questions you may have)

[FrogNewb]

i'll post a pic of the tank later and how much does green tree frogs eat? I bought 1000 crickets because i have more reptiles and can they eat mealworms, superworms or waxworms? I keep my room around 70 atleast all year because of the heater i have in the room. I also have a lamp in there that keeps it nice and bright.

[Mentat]

Here are a couple of links to their care info: http://www.frogforum.net/care-sheet-...a-cinerea.html and The basic care of the green tree frog. Hope this helps !

[FrogNewb]

Here is a couple pics of my tank that will be housing 2 green tree frogs, once i get the frogs i will post pictures of them.

[Gnag the nameless]

I strongly suggest you get a wallpaper/background for the tank, and place it on the back wall and sides. It'll work magic in reducing stress and helping your frogs feel more secure in their setup.

Nice setup, though. Make sure that lid is on tight, tree frogs are great escape artists!

[Staffaz]

Make sure that lid is on tight, tree frogs are great escape artists!

Tell me about it ! Mine escaped two nights ago. Found her in the kids bathroom, in the bath. Lucky me, my cat didn't find her before I did

[UncleChester]

I'd try to put more perches up high if you can. If you have a live vine type of plant in there, this will eventually happen, but rearranging your fake brown vine might also help. Mine is usually within the top 10% of it's tank.

Mealworms should be an occasional thing, they aren't very nutritious and are hard to digest. Same for superworms, but they are also probably too big. Wax worms are another occasional thing, they're pretty fatty. Wax moths are appreciated though. Earthworms make a great staple, not all treefrogs enjoy them though. Many people swear by roaches.

You might also want to read Frog Forum - Gray Tree Frog Care and Breeding I keep my Hyla cinerea in pretty much the same way as a Gray treefrog. H. cinerea are a wee bit smaller though, and of course not freeze tolerant (though that doesn't really come up in captivity).

[FrogNewb]

Yeah i'll try to move it up, thanks for all the help. If i have anymore questions i will post them.

[Louie]

That should be plenty of ventilation, make sure the screen lid has no openings, frogs can squish through remarkably small spaces.

Your reptile dome lamp should be fine to take a CFL bulb, they're usually rated for energy sucking heat lamps. 8-12 hours is a normal daytime photo period. A thermometer in the tank might not hurt.



They're already on the way? I'll stress one last time the need for separate enclosures. Cubans are known to eat American Greens in the wild. This is part of the problem with their invasion into Florida, they are seriously damaging native treefrog populations by not only out competing them, but also eating them.

I live in S.Florida and the BIG CTF are exclusively anole, gecko and native treefrog eaters. However I have never subscribed to the theory that they are introduced by man because I have lost count how many floating piles of wood, tree's I have found coming in to the beach shore after storms which are carrying Cuban tree frogs or some type Cuban lizard. I do think that the increase in structures paved the road for the CTF population to explode as the breeding females are simply to large to hunt in dense foliage like the green treefrogs do.

[Louie]

I strongly suggest you get a wallpaper/background for the tank, and place it on the back wall and sides. It'll work magic in reducing stress and helping your frogs feel more secure in their setup.

Nice setup, though. Make sure that lid is on tight, tree frogs are great escape artists!

The background is a fantastic idea.

[flybyferns]

FrogNewb,
Great job- looks really super!
Post some photos when you get them.

They will love there new digs, after their quarantine period
Lynn