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    Default Re: Starting my very first Dart frog tank.

    So I went out and bought the titebond III today to use instead of the silicone for applying the coco What is the best way to apply it? I know some say mixing it with water and coco to paint it on works well, if so what is the ratio on that? or what other methods do you guys use? Also how long do I have to wait to apply a second coat if needed? I really appreciate everyone's help. I love being able to come to this forum for help and feed back.

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    i mix my coco with the glue until it is a nice, thick slurry. if i feel it is too thick, i cut it with more glue. i paint it on with acid brushes Oatey Acid Brushes (3-Pack)-3071020 at The Home Depot i find they are small enough to reach all the nooks and crannies and are inexpensive enough to be disosable. i wait 48 hours or more before applying more. on my final coat i sprinkle a "secret mix" on the wet stuff. you can dust it with coco, peat moss, whatever you like to achieve your desired effect. my mantella tank took 3 coats i believe. take your time, and the result will be well worth it. oh, and i let the final coat "cure" for 3 days or more.
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    Default Re: Starting my very first Dart frog tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by deranged chipmunk View Post
    i mix my coco with the glue until it is a nice, thick slurry. if i feel it is too thick, i cut it with more glue. i paint it on with acid brushes Oatey Acid Brushes (3-Pack)-3071020 at The Home Depot i find they are small enough to reach all the nooks and crannies and are inexpensive enough to be disosable. i wait 48 hours or more before applying more. on my final coat i sprinkle a "secret mix" on the wet stuff. you can dust it with coco, peat moss, whatever you like to achieve your desired effect. my mantella tank took 3 coats i believe. take your time, and the result will be well worth it. oh, and i let the final coat "cure" for 3 days or more.

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    next question.. Can want to silicone moss in random places.The moss I have you soak in water for 20-30 minutes before putting in terrarium, so my question is do I have to let it completely dry out before using silicone to put in the different places or will it stick being slightly damp? Also is it true I can silicone dried shelf mushrooms onto my tree trunk as long as I bake them first?

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    that moss won't stick if it is damp. to get the effect you are looking for, i just tear up a piece of sheet moss into smaller pieces and either place them in spots, or i use an opened up paper clip to attach them. the moss will even grow and spread that way.

    i'm not 100% sure about the mushrooms, but i would think they need to be dried first, then baked at a lower temp than you would bake wood at so they don't get crispy. that would be if you are collecting your own. you may be able to find already prepared ones online though.
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    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
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    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
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    Default Re: Starting my very first Dart frog tank.

    I collected the mushrooms from a tree in my back yard and they are already dried out As far as the moss goes I bought zoo med terrarium moss(sphagnum moss) will that moss start growing? I didn't think it would. I knew frog moss would but not that one. paper clipping it is a great idea for most of what I am doing however I am covering one side of my water feature tube to hide it. would silicone be the best for doing that?

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    no, that forest moss or whatever they call it is dried and processed. no chance for regeneration. even the frogmoss is iffy at best. as far as siliconing the tube, it kind of depends. silicone would work. if you can get all the way around it, fishing line would also work, so would super glue.
    1.0.0 Oophaga Pumilio 'Black Jeans'
    0.0.10 Phyllobates Vittatus
    0.0.3 Phyllobates Terribilis 'Mint'
    0.0.3 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Patricia'
    0.0.5 Dendrobates Leucomelas
    0.0.2 Dendrobates Tinctorius 'Powder Blue'
    0.0.2 Ranitomeya Variabilis 'southern'
    0.0.3 Epipedobates Anthonyi 'zarayunga'
    1.2.0 Phyllobates bicolor
    0.0.3 Dendrobates tinctorius 'azureus'
    0.0.1 Avicularia Avicularia
    0.0.1 Gramastola porteri
    0.2.0 Canines
    1.0.0 Tabby/Maine Coon Mix
    2.1.0 Genetics Experiments
    0.1.0 Bed Bully

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    Default Re: Starting my very first Dart frog tank.

    okay thanks for your help. I didn't know super glue was frog safe, good to know. And as far as the mushrooms they are safe right? I have read they are but thought I would ask anyhow..

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