Serious question about Grey Tree Frog!!

[Tubby0512]

I look at grey tree frog pictures and some are green. I have about 20 mated pair of tree frogs that come every year to my pool and they are all greyish color. But I see other peoples grey tree frogs and they are green and adults. My grey tree frog was green until about 3-4 months old. My grey tree frog can change to a light grey almost white, dark grey, and light and dark brownish. He is never green. Why are some adults green?

[CJ PELCHER]

There are 2 different species of greys. From what i been told the Hyla versicolor should be the one you have and is known to go from white to green to grey to brown. (Causes of lack of color change: substrates / LIVE plants not being in terrarium / Social aspects with other grey tree frogs)

[CJ PELCHER]

also.. look into feeding him something new in his diet like ROACHES. They have more vitamins in them and might spike a color change as well. I can send some out to you if you wish. It would be my first sale in my company =P im guessing your guy takes small roaches maybe even medium. Ill give you both sizes for the price of one =) 50 roaches for 6.00 plus shipping and handing =) Private me if interested =P

[Tubby0512]

I have no idea what size he would eat. yuck. I also feed him ants, flies, grasshoppers, tater bugs,

[UncleChester]

It depends on the individual frog. Not all of them can turn green and just range between shades of gray. Some are green virtually all the time.

[CJ PELCHER]

well then your good to go. =P no need for roaches =P

[Tubby0512]

So it goes back to the different species of Grey's? Mine is always a shade of grey sometimes he turns light to dark brownish. What are the 2 different kind of Grey's? Mine is the Eastern Grey Tree Frog.

[CJ PELCHER]

the second one: (Hyla chrysoscelis) aka copes gray tree frog...they look identical

[Tubby0512]

Oh I see. Than what makes them different? are they from a different area or something?

[CJ PELCHER]

they share alot of the same territories from what i understand off research.

Gray tree frog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7...0110--,00.html

[UncleChester]

There's no way to tell them apart visually. The Eastern Gray has twice as many chromosomes as a Cope's and their calls are a little different, those are the sure ways to distinguish between them if you are in or even near areas where their ranges are said to overlap.

Your frog is still young, it's possible that it will start showing more green when it's older. This happened with my male but my female is and always has been shades of grey. It isn't a differences between sexes though, I've seen the opposite with many of the 'wild' ones that hang around my place that I've become familiar with.

[UncleChester]

This page has sound recordings of their calls:

Grey Treefrogs

They also mention a difference in blood cell size, and there is a difference in the sperm cell size as well. The adhesive cells in the toe-pads are also of different sizes. Unfortunately, the tools for determining these differences aren't usually on hand.

[Tubby0512]

Mine is defiantly the Eastern Grey Tree frog because his call is the same as and Eastern Grey Tree frog and different from the cope's grey tree frog. I seriously have about 20 mated pairs of eastern grey tree frogs that come to my pool every year. At one time I had 25 eastern grey tree frogs on my pool deck. no joke. They are everywhere. in my windows, hose, everywhere. I have to check the grill before I turn it on so I don't cook one. That's how many I have around my yard. a cooked frog smells horrible.

[flybyferns]

Mine is defiantly the Eastern Grey Tree frog because his call is the same as and Eastern Grey Tree frog and different from the cope's grey tree frog. I seriously have about 20 mated pairs of eastern grey tree frogs that come to my pool every year. At one time I had 25 eastern grey tree frogs on my pool deck. no joke. They are everywhere. in my windows, hose, everywhere. I have to check the grill before I turn it on so I don't cook one. That's how many I have around my yard. a cooked frog smells horrible.

Jessica,
Could you possibly post some photos?

[Tubby0512]

of my frog? or the wild ones? If wild one have to wait about 3 weeks. only saw one so far. spring is just getting here.

[flybyferns]

Of the wild ones
During the up-coming spring season.
Lynn

[Tubby0512]

yes will do. I will also post a video. some people don't believe me when I say I have a lot that come to my pool.

[NeoLover]

My adult is gray and my young one is a brown color. They change color based on a number of reasons like temperatures, diet, stress levels, ect. But it is totally normal. And it could also do with the colors he's exposed to in the cage. When they're kept with lots of plants they turn a green color to blend with the leaves. One's exposed to mostly woody colors are browner.

[Tubby0512]

I have green moss on the bottom of his tank, bark, couple of sticks, fish decoration. He is always a grey color sometimes brownish but never green. Sadly I have to take him to the vets Thursday. He has this lump on his lip and it looks horrible.