Zoomed Pacman Food

[GrifTheGreat]

Now I realize that Samurai and Nuance came up with the original idea, but we don't know Zoo Med's side of the story only yours and that is a small amount of information because your legal council has warned you against posting too much and possibly getting hit with a slander suit.
I don't want this thread to get out of hand so Iets not let it become so.

I use your product sparingly. I just don't feel it to be natural for a frog to eat a dough comprised of many good things and a few things that they would not willingly eat. Not saying its a bad product at all I just don't think it is 100% healthy for them to only eat the Pacman Food.

As for Zoo Med's version of the food. If it does not 100% match your recipe then it cannot be considered the same product otherwise anyone of us that makes their own compound of ground up food items made as a food for our frogs would be guilty of doing as Zoo Med has done even though ours would be for personal use and not public.

[SamuraiJapanReptiles]

They bought our Pacman Foods. the recipe is almost same. just they didn't add some stuff it only under 1g. It is under 1g of 113.4g.
99% same stuff.
There is the problem with other places.but it cannot say until a specific procedure is over.

[Mentat]

They bought our Pacman Foods. the recipe is almost same. just they didn't add some stuff it only under 1g. It is under 1g of 113.4g. 99% same stuff. There is the problem with other places.but it cannot say until a specific procedure is over.

You have the right to protect your intelectual property. I'm unsure how this situation came to be; but guess that after your lawyers have their day in court, maybe we will know. Say maybe, because many times, it's part of the final agreement that all parts keep silent on whole issue.

I'm curious on why Zoo Med developed their product. Did they had a deal with you that fell apart or something on that venue? It's foolish of them to copy a product that has patents or similar protecting it. Recent patents have a lifetime of 20 years and your product from what I read here is around 13, so it would be covered under the law. Can't find information on your patents so can't even tell if and how patent protects them. Can you discuss that?

[Lija]

on a topic though i don't really see the reason on discussing it, the only thing that is the same is a process - you have dry mix, you add water and you feed the frogs. it is not a rocket science, anyone can do it, you don't need to patent it. there are so many many different things on a market right now that are similar, I'm actually surprised why samurai food was the only one in that category for so long, i guess nobody really saw the market for that.
it is all about recipe. nobody will think that zoomed food is samurai food, it is like with repashy and Clarks, etc, different brands of cereal and many more.

I use samurai food quite a lot, and very very unhappy with a fact that shipping to states is 5$ and 3 times more to Canada, and there is no other way to get it other then to order. so of course if zoomed is a decent quality, will roll in a same nice ball, hopefully will remain it's shape in dry conditions longer and most importantly will be available where zoomed products are sold, I will be buying it rather then samurai. it is called market.
having said that even though there are tons of different brands of crested gecko diet i buy and feed exclusively repashy, because of it's recipe as well as data available.

[Namio]

on a topic though i don't really see the reason on discussing it, the only thing that is the same is a process - you have dry mix, you add water and you feed the frogs. it is not a rocket science, anyone can do it, you don't need to patent it. there are so many many different things on a market right now that are similar, I'm actually surprised why samurai food was the only one in that category for so long, i guess nobody really saw the market for that.
it is all about recipe. nobody will think that zoomed food is samurai food, it is like with repashy and Clarks, etc, different brands of cereal and many more.

I use samurai food quite a lot, and very very unhappy with a fact that shipping to states is 5$ and 3 times more to Canada, and there is no other way to get it other then to order. so of course if zoomed is a decent quality, will roll in a same nice ball, hopefully will remain it's shape in dry conditions longer and most importantly will be available where zoomed products are sold, I will be buying it rather then samurai. it is called market.
having said that even though there are tons of different brands of crested gecko diet i buy and feed exclusively repashy, because of it's recipe as well as data available.

Wow Lija after reading your signature I just had realized how many herp pets you have! Too many, lol! Excellent selection of pets though!
Anyways, if zoomed did indeed stole Yusuke's idea/recipe, I hope they get punished.

[Lija]

Namio quite a few are missing lol thank you!

[GrifTheGreat]

Namio quite a few are missing lol thank you!

What she meant to say here is that she owns a zoo Lol!

[GrifTheGreat]

They bought our Pacman Foods. the recipe is almost same. just they didn't add some stuff it only under 1g. It is under 1g of 113.4g.
99% same stuff.
There is the problem with other places.but it cannot say until a specific procedure is over.

With what little information that you say you are allowed to disclose you are not putting up a very good argument that would persuade members here to not buy the Zoo Med Pacman Food. Zoo Med is highly respected in the US and their products are everywhere. To say that they made a careless mistake and stole the recipe for a patented product would be as Carlos said foolish and I don't believe that they would be that stupid to risk a large scale suite over something as small scale as a convienient frog food.

Your argument is not that solid with what little you have given in your defense. At least not to me.

Since this is not your thread and by posting your delema here you have hijacked the OP's thread I am going to recomend that you post anything else about this issue in the Testimonial Forum. That is where this falls

Thank you

Best regards
Jerrod