hahahaha Lija!!! Can you please tell me more about Ornates? They sound interesting. Is ruby an ornate? I heard they can have great appettite and are not really picky eaters, but are they also nocturnal? Anything else I should know about these? My baby is either a cranwelli or ornate, but all the research I've done has been mainly about cranwellis, so I wonder if ornates are the same thing. I'm not sure yet but will post a pic asap to show you guys