reptivite with d3 mixed with water

[Mentat]

Hi Kristen! This might be one of those events that are hard to pinpoint down to a specific cause. You could repeat the ReptiviteD3 water (dechlorinated or use tank water) mix on the mealworms and see what happens to them. Obviously we are not going to experiment with the frogs. I don't feed pinced worms to my frogs, only earthworms and Dubia. The former are excellent for dusted feedings because the supplements stick to their bodies real well. Good luck !

[Bolisnide]

I agree with Carlos. Sometimes mysterious things happen?
Can you post a picture of the frogs and the enclosure?

[Kristenmarie211]

Thanks guys for responding :-)

[DVirginiana]

Sorry for your frog's death This may sound like a silly question... But did you mix the reptivite and water and try to feed that to the frog by itself as a sort of supplement? I've heard of calcium overdoses causing seizures in frogs before. I'm probably misreading that though :P

Hm... This is almost definitely not the cause for the frog's death, but you may want to consider removing the snail for both its sake and the remaining frogs. Snails and frogs both secrete mucous and toxins from their skin that could be irritating. They also absorb chemicals through the skin very easily. Even if they live together in the wild, they wouldn't be as likely to come into contact with these toxins on a regular basis (thinking of a story where someone was having problems partly due to housing a giant land snail in a tank with a frog.)

Also, can you post a picture of your tank? It sounds like it'd be interesting looking.

[deranged chipmunk]

my thought was that since the frog as already of ill health, that if the water was not dechlorinated, that actually ingesting it could have caused the seizure and death. unfortunately, i do know enough about frog biology to know if that is even possible. or as D mentioned, maybe due to it's poor health to begin with, a calcium overdose caused it, which sounds much more feasible than my train of thought.

[Kristenmarie211]

after seeing a post from someone that had a green tree frog go through the exact same thing as well. I believe that he had a blockage due to eating crickets that were too large. I have let the other crickets go and now I'm giving smaller crickets. I have only ever seen calcium deficiency cause seizures. Never too much and it wouldn't have been an instant response. I will not use reptivite again. I will show pictures soon, my phone won't let me

Sorry for your frog's death This may sound like a silly question... But did you mix the reptivite and water and try to feed that to the frog by itself as a sort of supplement? I've heard of calcium overdoses causing seizures in frogs before. I'm probably misreading that though :P

Hm... This is almost definitely not the cause for the frog's death, but you may want to consider removing the snail for both its sake and the remaining frogs. Snails and frogs both secrete mucous and toxins from their skin that could be irritating. They also absorb chemicals through the skin very easily. Even if they live together in the wild, they wouldn't be as likely to come into contact with these toxins on a regular basis (thinking of a story where someone was having problems partly due to housing a giant land snail in a tank with a frog.)

Also, can you post a picture of your tank? It sounds like it'd be interesting looking.

[DVirginiana]

after seeing a post from someone that had a green tree frog go through the exact same thing as well. I believe that he had a blockage due to eating crickets that were too large. I have let the other crickets go and now I'm giving smaller crickets. I have only ever seen calcium deficiency cause seizures. Never too much and it wouldn't have been an instant response. I will not use reptivite again. I will show pictures soon, my phone won't let me

Hm... I've never seen calcium deficiency cause seizures; usually it causes MBD (Metabolic Bone Disease) which is typically characterized by weakness and poor bone formation. These symptoms are almost always obvious for a while before anything as serious as a seizure could happen. Calcium overdose, however, will cause seizures. When in a liquid (like water, or a body) Calcium ionizes (forms Ca2+ ions). Ca2+ is a very important in intercellular signalling in animals; most notably in the firing of neurons. In animals that absorb fluid and oxygen readily through their skin, being exposed to an excess of dissolved calcium over the skin or even through the mouth will cause seizures, as all the Ca2+ will begin to cause neurons to fire abnormally.
I don't know if that's what happened to your frog, but I believe that's the reason calcium overdose will cause seizures (I'm mainly a plant person, but Ca2+ works pretty similarly in both systems).

Was there a lump on the frog's side? That'd be an indicator of a blockage.