Being sold as a giant?

[ejh805]

Hey everyone.

I was just perusing a popular reptile site and saw this frog for sale, listed as a Giant African Bullfrog.
Seller claims male, CBB. It doesn't look anything like the GABFs I've seen but strongly resembles a dwarf to me.

Was hoping to get some feedback before sending this seller an informative message.
Don't wanna make an *** of myself



Thanks!

[GrifTheGreat]

Looks like a female GABF with some very unique coloring. Doesn't look much like a male Giant and yellow coloring is not an exact science for sexing these frogs. Male Dwarfs do tend to have alot of yellow on the chest and arm pits. The head is a decent size, but most male GABFs. Don't have full yellow throats.

I'd like to know the size SVL of the frog and age before giving a definite answer. If it is a Dwarf it is a male.

[ejh805]

Thanks, Grif.

The seller doesn't list SVL but states that the frog weighs 1.4 lbs and is 2 years old.

[Daniel L]

Thanks, Grif.

The seller doesn't list SVL but states that the frog weighs 1.4 lbs and is 2 years old.

Hi,

Nice frog.
Its a male dwarf. I have the same frog. Males of this P. Edulis species can get 6-7 ich long. Mine is now 7 inch but is stop growing now.

[Lija]

agree with Daniel- male dwarf, sitting on awfully dry substrate

[GrifTheGreat]

Yep Male Dwarf as everyone has said. Looks go be in good health. Hoprfully thise are recent pics.

[DeeDub]

Lol. Look at the retained pattern on the front legs. Def. Not adspersus. Very cool frog nonetheless.

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Thanks
DW

[ejh805]

The seller got back to me with pics of the frogs that just came in from Mozambique.

He said he would like a consensus from the members here as to whether or not any of these are p. adspersus. I believe they are all edulis or other subspecies that are not true giants. However a majority vote by all us here would be very appreciated.

[SCF]

It's P. Edulis

[ejh805]

The man who these frogs belong to days they are a newly classified subspecies!
Very interesting

http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2013/f/z03599p228f.pdf

[SCF]

The man who these frogs belong to days they are a newly classified subspecies!
Very interesting

http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2013/f/z03599p228f.pdf

Not sure what is what now....

That article is 31 years old as well.

[Lija]

The seller got back to me with pics of the frogs that just came in from Mozambique.

He said he would like a consensus from the members here as to whether or not any of these are p. adspersus. I believe they are all edulis or other subspecies that are not true giants. However a majority vote by all us here would be very appreciated.

there is no need for voting, it is ridiculous, they all P. edulis.
it's like let's vote if that is a bullfrog or tree frog, although mine sometimes likes to pretend she is a tree frog lol.
giant and dwarf has their own unique traits, that is how you know, yellow throat and chest is dead give away you see a dwarf.
and as for first frog, not long ago i saw a brown C. Cranwelli labeled as pixie in a store, it happens all the time. that is why sellers before they sell something need to make sure what exactly they received and sell. and that is how you know you should or should not trust a seller.