Insect Lore ADF set up?

[emberlisa]

Do you think this african dwarf frog set up from insect lore is safe and appropriate?

Eco-Aquarium

Anyone have any experience with this product?

[mpmistr]

Gimmick, worthless. Get a 10 gallon aquarium, commonly sold for $10-$13 dollars. An african dwarf frog usually goes for $1-$3 dollars.. a Whisper 10i costs maybe $10 dollars?

For less than $25 bucks you could have an actual aquarium that you can actually filter properly. $50 dollars? Rip off.. too small, cannot maintain, or heat (hymenochirus is a tropical animal), no lid.. 'magical gravel'..

[emberlisa]

What's the problem with live gravel?

I have a 10 gallon tank and filter.

Do you kno where I can buy adf? Preferably tadpoles.

[mpmistr]

What's the problem with live gravel?

Live gravel? Or as I call it, gravel.. gimmick.

I have a 10 gallon tank and filter.

So why do you need this terrible product?

Do you kno where I can buy adf? Preferably tadpoles.

Are you just having issues finding ADF frogs for sale? I've seen them carried at PetSmart and PetCo and many LFS carry them as well.

[Felis]

Hi,

As mpmistr wrote, the system is overpriced. Also, it is too small for the frogs to thrive. How is this "magic gravel" supposed to work?! The only possibility I can imagine is something like zeolithe which absorbs organic components, but this doesn´t work forever. After a certain amount of time, the absorbing capacities will be exceeded and you´d need to replace the gravel. As it is hardly predictable when this will happen, systems like this put the animals in danger. I´ve read quite a lot forum entries about similar system and it always ended up with sick, dying or dead animals.
I would go with the 10 gal. A filtered, heated and cycled aquarium with regular maintainance such as weekly partial water changes is the much better choice here (plus it´s cheaper). ADFs are widely sold, maybe you can even find a local breeder.

[Geoff]

The "aquarium" appears to be a 4 inch plastic cube judging from the main photo showing a frog in it.

[emberlisa]

Hi,

As mpmistr wrote, the system is overpriced. Also, it is too small for the frogs to thrive. How is this "magic gravel" supposed to work?! The only possibility I can imagine is something like zeolithe which absorbs organic components, but this doesn´t work forever. After a certain amount of time, the absorbing capacities will be exceeded and you´d need to replace the gravel. As it is hardly predictable when this will happen, systems like this put the animals in danger. I´ve read quite a lot forum entries about similar system and it always ended up with sick, dying or dead animals.
I would go with the 10 gal. A filtered, heated and cycled aquarium with regular maintainance such as weekly partial water changes is the much better choice here (plus it´s cheaper). ADFs are widely sold, maybe you can even find a local breeder.

Hi, I've been reading about "eco aquariums" and the bamboo plant survives with the help off living gravel and the plant acts as a "natural aerator." EcoAquarium Facts - Wild Creations

You can buy the living gravel and plant w/o the tiny tank. I wonder if it would work in a filtered tank.

[emberlisa]

Live gravel? Or as I call it, gravel.. gimmick.



So why do you need this terrible product?



Are you just having issues finding ADF frogs for sale? I've seen them carried at PetSmart and PetCo and many LFS carry them as well.

I didn't say that I wanted or needed this "terrible product." I'm more curious than anything. I imagine that most people who buy this type of product wind up with sick frogs and move them to bigger homes.